mutant Posted December 11, 2008 I wonder what would be the main characteristics of these fatty trichs, as well as other similar trichs of the fatty 'family'... They grow more slowly than the fast growing trichs, I know that. They have more dense and long spination than pachanoi family. What else? I am supposedly growing both species, so it should be fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mutant Posted June 23, 2013 if this is so, then I will also post how fat the validus has become http://postimage.org/'> 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Evil Genius Posted June 24, 2013 Looks great! Thats a rare one. Could you plant that one out in the ground in Greece? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Getafix Posted June 24, 2013 Beautiful plants Mutant, I love the big fat Trichs and am fortunate enough to be able to put them into the ground. The Validus is one of my favourite cacti. The big one is almost 50cm fat at the base. Come spring it is going into the ground to become all it can be!! A couple of Terscheckii in the ground. The little seedlings are all Validus, awesome seed kindly given to me my another member with nearly 100% germination. I think there are about 60 there. My little seed grown Werder's are coming along nicely as well, enjoy. Validus Terscheckii Werdermannianus Seedlings Validus Seedlings 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mutant Posted June 24, 2013 EG>> rare one? what do you mean? I think I can plant anything here, but my plot (w/ GH) is in higher altitude and can get frost in wnter! in greece, as long as its not where it can snow in winter a bit . maybe these (the fat tricho family , as they mightbe more cold hard and more hot hardy) but from my small experience, nothing is better than biggy container, unless you work a lot. but maybe I know what ya mean. I need to plant something in the ground I have. but they dont seem happy. I have put trichocerei in the ground but without preparing it and often not watering enough in summer heat, and they dont grow fast at all. we'll see - I will be planting them some pachanois outside... already did some recently.... No wonder there cacti grow often in high altitudes. you probably havent grasped how dry and hot it is here. the GH is at 300 m altitude and nearer to mountain and frost putting them in the ground, means you have to fert or replace the soil and water a lot. Plus, in no time, you get weeds drinking the water supposed to aim trichos. Micromegas thing seems awesome, what zone is this dude anyways?? - but those I guess were planted much earlier Whatever the case, the Trichocereus scopulicola (euro strain) I got in the ground for some time now, is flowering , is growing and looks as if it was in the wild. Also nice... what I wanna say: trichocerei like rich soil and watering through growing period. Hot period has them stall a bit, unless you water constantly... and then ?!??! so they can do very fucking well in reasonable containers Its important IME , in hot areas, to prepare the soil and used methods to avoid weeds... I am a lousy organiser, so I haven't really done work to do this. but have already some semi wild patches that do well - succulents though... trichocerei - no success with them outside... ****drunk mode on**** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Quixote Posted June 25, 2013 What is the enormous fat cactus in the background? The one in a red pot, skin glaucous with a dark green band, central long spines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mutant Posted June 25, 2013 eh eh, you spotted it huh? a true ethnohead can recognise the 'true blue' from miles , lol well this joke never gets old. it is a T.peruvianus ICARO clone, mother bought as seedling from sab 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Hellonasty Posted July 6, 2013 What a fantastic thread really love your work Mutant ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mutant Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) I remember some dude had asked me to take a shot of the 'blond' and more 'reddish/brownish' pasanacas. well this is a terscheckii , some 6 years from seed, pretty hard grown this is my fave pasacana, showing how easily it increases ribs and here are two pairs of blond and brunette pasacanas and here is a riddle for EG what looks a lot like a golden-white spines pasacana PS: we should either stick this or created another one more scientific sticky.. just saying... Edited April 14, 2014 by mutant 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) My terscheckiis from uk - 2x terscheckii DJF468 Valle Elqui Arg' 1000M from kuentz that has the incurved central dark top spine that i see on tacaquirensis/ taquimbalensis Heres the one I got from Uhlig The one I got from the most cool one in Italy - that's werdermannianus in the background-right And the one I got from less cool one in Italy And the Valle fertil san huan Edited June 16, 2014 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) My werdermannianus' Best one from Germany These are some 2 year old seedlings of werdermannianus that have been torched of their spines accidentally when flamethrowing spidermites these came from hungary named Trichocereus werdermannianus WS259 Chaipiuco, Potosi, Bolivia and are my favourite green too :3 Edited June 16, 2014 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) mutant!!! I bring good learnings... lets recap Trichocereus taquimbalensis var wilka , same seed grown batch. on the right is var I named EFI this began its life grafted on a pereskiopsis and is really more forward/advanced than the others. The specimen shown is a cutting took from the mother plant, the mother is pretty fattier and with more ribs. I am not sure if the phenotype is characteristic of that seed dna or the grafting affected it. The one on the left had the less number of ribs from start, is beautifully dark green and has awesome spine pattern. A true var wilka too. I got a couple that aint so wilka, and I am growing several names of the family from scratch again. Age: 5 years from seed. This must be Trichocereus validus after all, so the initial guess sounds just right. And this, judging from the new pup seems again like the initial estimation : T. terscheckii these were a freebie pack " validus / mixed ??? " from a good community friend. I have not grown validus yet, these seem to be pumping pretty faster than any that I have seen. Should validus seedlings go this fast? Interesting is that from that seed batch has occured a slow growing cresty form. background taquimbalensis middle row: terscheckii, 5 years from seed below row: pasacana A pasacana looking good in that over planted pot same as previous, different perspective if this is so, then I will also post how fat the validus has become Looks great! Thats a rare one. Could you plant that one out in the ground in Greece? ...... tactfully ... but doesnt confirm validus , just says its a rare one and how good looking Beautiful plants Mutant, I love the big fat Trichs and am fortunate enough to be able to put them into the ground. The Validus is one of my favourite cacti. The big one is almost 50cm fat at the base. Come spring it is going into the ground to become all it can be!! A couple of Terscheckii in the ground. The little seedlings are all Validus, awesome seed kindly given to me my another member with nearly 100% germination. I think there are about 60 there. My little seed grown Werder's are coming along nicely as well, enjoy. Validus 001.JPG 002.JPG 003.JPG Terscheckii 004.JPG 005.JPG Werdermannianus Seedlings 006.JPG 007.JPG 008.JPG Validus Seedlings 009.JPG 013.JPG 014.JPG just says validus is a fave, still doesnt confirm validus for ya mutant, even shares awesome pics tho for us to study and learn from EG>> rare one? what do you mean? I think I can plant anything here, but my plot (w/ GH) is in higher altitude and can get frost in wnter! in greece, as long as its not where it can snow in winter a bit . maybe these (the fat tricho family , as they mightbe more cold hard and more hot hardy) but from my small experience, nothing is better than biggy container, unless you work a lot. but maybe I know what ya mean. I need to plant something in the ground I have. but they dont seem happy. I have put trichocerei in the ground but without preparing it and often not watering enough in summer heat, and they dont grow fast at all. we'll see - I will be planting them some pachanois outside... already did some recently.... No wonder there cacti grow often in high altitudes. you probably havent grasped how dry and hot it is here. the GH is at 300 m altitude and nearer to mountain and frost putting them in the ground, means you have to fert or replace the soil and water a lot. Plus, in no time, you get weeds drinking the water supposed to aim trichos. Micromegas thing seems awesome, what zone is this dude anyways?? - but those I guess were planted much earlier Whatever the case, the Trichocereus scopulicola (euro strain) I got in the ground for some time now, is flowering , is growing and looks as if it was in the wild. Also nice... what I wanna say: trichocerei like rich soil and watering through growing period. Hot period has them stall a bit, unless you water constantly... and then ?!??! so they can do very fucking well in reasonable containers Its important IME , in hot areas, to prepare the soil and used methods to avoid weeds... I am a lousy organiser, so I haven't really done work to do this. but have already some semi wild patches that do well - succulents though... trichocerei - no success with them outside... ****drunk mode on**** so did these guys confirm validus , to you mutant? ... or just say yeah its a rare one, to make you believe you were selling a validus and for me to believe i was buying a validus... did you ever get an answer? since it arrived here the same voice told me it was a terscheckii , validusn't? invalidus? terschalidus valideckii? or what? .... here's mutants (my) old (new) validus (i was told by eg is a terscheckii) now i bought it as a validus, came a tad beat but hey , I adored it like it was a son for a few months has less spines now too and despite it being on the floor, hasnt been relegated there, is just awaiting a next size down pot ... and then EG called it a terscheckii and well ... it pretty much looks very terscheckii to my eye now, on spination alone..... but like i say was offered, sold and bought as validus.... now I have a better eye for validus but how good is yours still? gotta admit, I believed you as much as you seemed to do, and as far as i can see above, nobody told you it wasnt a validus... but it took points of a second for em to tell me it wasnt ....examined brettloth's more and more and more on his site, and spent hours gazing at zelly's through the glaucousness and flower fluffs to see the distinct spination , -that single long straight one and the lack of spines in the top of the areole and since recognise similarities on a peruvianus of mine that micheal says is a cuzco - ok actually .. he said it could well be , or words to that effect... , so as not to misconstrue ... anyhoo... and the late forming spines on the T' validus X echinopsis i got from uk also Why isnt there a how to recognise a Trichocereus validus Thread? and I still adore the cut mutant, wouldn part with it for the world, and would still have gladly bought it if it were labelled terscheckii too Edited June 22, 2014 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mutant Posted June 15, 2014 i still pertain its a validus... you will see when it roots... did it root already? I guess no 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted June 15, 2014 (edited) i still did too , despite being told otherwise ... for ages.. was only when EG said it was terscheckii (meaning not the validus ) that i started to dig deeper for wanting to really understand what it was that my eye was missing and thrashed it out 24-7 finally i drew back to the beginning and looked thru zellys flowers at his's spination and went and read all of the what ya did to ya cactus today thread and found those beautys ,,, i was that in shock i frgot all who posted em , i only recall mushroom man and getafix but im sure thr was another -edit- and how could i forget... micromegas' legendary GOD of a cactus if it is a type of validus , please accept my apologies in advance but either way ... we'll get our widely recognised validus too... in the end I'll be sure to help it propogate as widely as possible when it comes my way , just as i thunk your intention was too im gna have to start learning how to take pollen n shit , and hunt down this uk validus grower I'm gna take a trip round some botanical gardens as outings with the kids and see if i might come across a royal validus and get some ID traits of theirs... I would think theyd have an original big enough to live in by now what do you guys have in the way of botanical cactus gardens , i should imagine there are some pearlers... theres a good idea... is there a worlds best cactus gardens thread ? ultimately... other than requests to the seed hunter adventurers... theres going to bolivia in the hope of scoring some self ID'd validus seeds and it's about to explode a root ... its burst the calous and has sucked lots of shit to it from the rooting medium i tried to take a pic but lol on the pic looks like rot... isnt tho, ....probably dark dirt from the mix -incidentally I watered it for the very first time a few days ago - 100ml of 4x strength cactus kelp feed with a dose of tomato food added, drizzled all over the cactus , other than that, its been bone dry Edited June 22, 2014 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Tacaquirensis subsp' taquimbalensis from kuentz... definitely not as sexy as var wilkae but hey... and the second one I got from them Edited June 16, 2014 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mutant Posted June 16, 2014 hey thunderhorse, I think I should clear out some things you asked. First of all I dont remember anyone saying my validus wasn't a validus, and I never had second thoughts on whether it is indeed validus... I dont really know what EG meant when he said it is rare, I suppose he meant validus is rare? BUT NOONE here or elsewhere knew anything about me selling the cactus, which you seem to imply (that supposedly someone was trying to tell me its rare and indeed a validus while I was trying to sell it). Truth is I cut the cactus in half to reroot the top cutting, as I could not easily move the cactus anywayz, while I offered to you by PM to sell you trichocereus cacti, seeing you were spending serious money on cacti telling you "why shouldn't I get some of it" - the money... and you asked me about validus, which you had already seen, and agreed to get the cut part despite the serious postage money you had to pay for that 8 kilo fucker... So seeing how you only got from me what you were not finding elsewhere, and now claiming its the wrong ID before it even fucking roots and even stating you would buy it even if it was labeled terscheckii (!?!??!), seems like too much confusion for me.. This along with your phrase wondering how good of an eye I got, well, did it for me, I mean negatively... Thankfully you dont seem to think I consciously deceived you!! I dont know who ID's cacti from a top cutting with most of the spines cut off, not seeing old and new growth as well as speed of growth. Seriously, if someone is saying this aint a validus, then bring the fucker on! So it isnt? why? you said EG said its no validus... where? and why? PS: obssession doesn't make up for a good taxonomic eye.. PS2: and oh, it was not my intention to spread the validus by selling, as I had only one... I just needed money. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Evil Genius Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) Hi Mutant, Yeah, I remember that I´ve seen this plant before. Look, This is really a bit early to tell because this validus variety tends not to show the typical spination until it reaches a certain size but i really consider the Validus FR to be some Variety of Terscheckii. Again, this may even be the Validus type of terscheckii i´ve seen on brethlots pics on the fields farm and on backebergs pics but for me, all you can differentiate that plant from is that downward Spines which is pointing to the left. Apart from that, it´s basically a Terscheckii. And this spination usually does not show on the first 20-30 Centimeters. Do you have a plant of your Motherplant, because that would really help? As you can see in the pics in post 89, the plant looks different on both pics. First one, it looks more like a standard terscheckii from Köhres. The Second pic shows somewhat of a similar Spination but at this point, i couldn´t really say for sure, though my gut feeling goes towards a terscheckii, which would be the right name anyway since the description of this species was really not justified . Of course, it´s a particularly Variety and has a special Spination, but since spination is so variable and depends on environmental factors, this is really a guessing game. At least until a Plant is at least 50-70 centimeters tall. Again, take a look at the first pic in Post 89. I wouldn´t know how to differentiate this One from what grows on Fields Farm. Honestly, i´ve gotten like 10 Terscheckiis with that Spination from Köhres. And Pic two, not sure, but since it´s the same plant as you see in pic 1, this could as well be caused enviromentally. Doesn´t mean it can put out the spination we know from the fields clone later on, but at this point, i´d rather not call it that. And again, under the current taxonomy, this is certainly a terscheckii. You know, i had plants like this that were labeled Validus and i removed all the labels and just call them terscheckii var. Validus(?) these days. Köhres has been selling very similar Terscheckiis in the last 30 years. Some of them may have even been from Ritters Validus seeds. Edited June 16, 2014 by Evil Genius 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) no i didnt once think you were decieving me mutant.. i was hoping to,,, a. find where the experts here have told you it was a validus since it felt like u wernt lying at all, and I suspected maybe someone had perhaps been careless prior to your calling it a validus -and as a later edit, if there's one thing I've found at shaman australis , its honesty, even blatantly lol ... i dnno if the cacti make people honest or if they just draw those kinds of folk to them ? I didnt really feel like posting at any of the other great ethno forums much but the honesty factor here really sucked me in fast ...- b. hopefully learn with you from them why it is or isnt a validus and share the plight toward a well recognisable validus with company , rather than alone ,,, or maybe see if it taught them something c. point out what someone couldve thought ... i just try to view things from many angles e.g.... if one day i had enough cacti that i might as well sell a few, It would suck if I sold someone a validus and then when they wanned to celebrate it being slammed with "thats a terscheckii" and the rest that comes with it like thinking fuck u its a validus..... (then learning this person is really a fkn expert) and "runs off with his validus and never returns" , was it really a validus i was running off with? then coming back down to earth to pick the pieces up if one day it flowers and i hybridise it and call seeds validus hybrid ,,,, if they arent , will be bad ju ju and super mean to the plant too other than that.... im intrigued to learn why or why not it is or isnt a validus ... so far all i got is studying spines areoles and formation rates but Im still awaiting a reply from micheal as to what is needed for ID'ing cacti , and to see if its as easy as ID'ing mushrooms like I'm hoping its even got me looking for peruvianus X terscheckii or macrogonus X terscheckii hybrid seed, just incase they spawn a validus looker -another later edit, in low light it looks very much like the one in backbergs pic that michael showed me - the one from EG's old backberg pics post where it tells of werdermannianus flowering at the tip Edited June 25, 2014 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) fair enough , it is my intention to spread it tho, so if one manifests itself into existance via the postman , I was hoping some would be welcomed your way and the where is in the what you did to your cactus today thread , when i posted pics as to why... ?....hes evil lol but since hes genius too , i have to listen to his advice for the plants sake if not my own cactus learnings too - just as much as I love learning from your advice/writings.... also would be nice to stick a validus in whoever gets to decide the current taxonomy lol and for pelecyphoras too , that i mainly fell in love with via name first , turbinicarpus feels like non pectinate plants to me *shrug* even mammillaria pectinifera i wanna call pelecyphora but anyhoo.. *imagines a white coat guy screaming "yes its a validus please take it out!"* EG, I dont think this is the same as the fields clones but like you say time will tell and have you any of these koehres sourced validus like spination plants locally available your way? or do you mean you grew their seed?, i kinda feel sad imagining you relabelling many to terscheckii.... if so ill be hitting them hard for some seeds and still trying to seek pups and as many types as poss... so for now , what can I call this cut? so as to quit digressing from the main topic , terscheckii just because of modern taxonomy doesnt feel justifyable in all honesty to a plant ... since science sucks balls especially politically these days ... terscheckii because being age old known and loved terscheckii would justify labelling it terscheckii validus ? / terscheckoid feels as close as i can feel right labelling it... can you guys do any better or dyu think thats a fair label ? at least for now ? i cant see it warranting Trichocereus sp' and if it is another validus clone i think it should be called mutant rightfully in my eyes and if its a terscheckii too Edited June 25, 2014 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mutant Posted June 17, 2014 Well if the validus has to have downward pointing spines, then mine must not be one. (its funny that all photos in trout notes showing validus specimens seem to be taquimbalensis/terscheckioids, hope its fixed in next versions) the spination of mine indeed reminds terscheckii, but its more sparce and with fewer spines I think. in that sense Getafix's one seems to be the real deal. I checked trouts notes and according to the backeberg notes/description, validus has that thing with the down=pointing spines from the lower half opf the areole. So, if this clone is related to terscheckii... here's what didn't fit to me (explaining why I thought it validus) *spines are lots more whitish yellow than the ters I have seen (minor note) *the growth speed was really faster than the ters I have seen, I mean wtf! terscheckii is supposed to be slow and this guy grew as fast as taquimbalensis, maybe even faster.. and pasacanas IME grow a tad bit faster that ters. *the areoles are spaced really sparce and the skin was also different to the ters I have seen. This specimen (the "validus" of mine) shows lots of skin due to its spination Getafix, how fast does your validus grow? then again, a different ters strain and and older plant might explain the faster speeds as I ahve seen up to 6-7 years old from seed specimens if erect spination points out NOT VALIDUS , then I may have been wrong after all... PS: I dont know if my arguements about speed growth are any valid. I have used similar arguements to point out good peruvianus.macro are slower in growth speed from pachanois, and also that cuzco grows faster than peruvians/macro. I am not sure if this could be a good tell-tell sign to aid an ID Peace 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Thank you fella , will add all this to my learnings and keep the validus? on one side of label and terscheckoid on the other side.. and be sure to post here on it's progression , sorry if my noobaje was annoying, I didnt mean to offend you via my own inadequacy of ID'ing them .... and your adequacy being undoubtedly far far superior.... I really want to learn the right way , I'm sure I'll get it right in the end im just trying to steer within the boundarys with naming - but some im stubborn on and wont budge (pelecyphora v turbinicarpus) if this turns out to be another clone of validus I will gladly try to flower it as fast as poss and try to get it to accept its own pollen with EG's cement on a paintbrush tek! - just bought a load of pretty echinopsis's to practice on - and good to know taquimbo's grow like stink too! -and that peruvianus micheal told me was cuzco that i posted a spine shot of, suddenly put on a vertical growth spurt faster than its fellow peruv/cuzco , one of which just suddenly went very fat without growing vertically at all (came labelled kk242 peruv from uk) - and getafix's is just one real deal clone I cant wait to know many different clones , so far it seems fields has 2, 2 of zelly in the columnar flower buds thread , micromegas's (i hope i spelled that right) seems to be v similar to getafix's if i imagine hard enough , seems some in oz are on the case after all , even if brettloth isnt yet , but after seeing that flowerer on his sofa ive thought itdve made some awesome seeds with the cement tek but looks like if anywhere is going to be the best place to see validus and hope for validus X validus seeds it's gna be here - and yeah its really annoying seeing taquimbo types as validus, not as annoying as seeing the "red flowered clumping" one tho - and yes i definitely have an obsession with it ... i need to make big flower totem poles... fat ones Edited June 24, 2014 by ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted June 24, 2014 okj i got the lack of angle on the rib , or lack of triangularity should I say... to add to your list of diagnostics on your cut its fkn a lot plumper and fatter than the angles on all my terscheckii the apex is blunt as a sausage .. , 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mutant Posted June 25, 2014 exactly, that was one of the creterion, they fat and roundish 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 ☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted July 6, 2014 the um "lens" says its very different as well , i had to wear it just once this month ... the terscheck's look like something out of ninja scroll when I have a migraine too... , the angular ribs even looked like blades at one point, and the validus ribs still looked blunt as a sausage at the same time ... but I only had what seemed to be 10 mins of checking before i forgot who i was lol and what i was doing and couldnt see any more,...... i only recall it as a vivid memory when i look directly at it wish idve used some of that time on the werder and the taquimbos, looking back . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I wonder what would be the main characteristics of these fatty trichs, as well as other similar trichs of the fatty 'family'...
They grow more slowly than the fast growing trichs, I know that. They have more dense and long spination than pachanoi family. What else?
I am supposedly growing both species, so it should be fun
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