planthelper Posted June 16, 2006 though i might get your mouth watery, haha. took me a few years to achive this, but i am happy as larry about it!! plants will be available in one or two years. http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/inde...&cmd=si&img=680 http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/inde...&cmd=si&img=681 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-bijanto- Posted June 16, 2006 Well done, ph!......... You deserve "The Khatfather of the year" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ergoamide Posted June 16, 2006 Wow man they are beautiful plants, how frost hardy do you think theyd be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyAmine. Posted June 16, 2006 Love your work Planthelper, very impressive. looks like a great plant, have you pinched it out much to make it look like that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M S Smith Posted June 17, 2006 planthelper, now that is just absolutely awesome! Hats off to you man. I still remember chewing wads of Catha (just one of the many shaman plants in my system at the time) in my visit there and a couple wacky buds try NLP on me trying to convince me that somehow my flight back to the US would cause some kind of shift in the time space continuum. Wish one could make it here (State-side) alive, and through customs. While I'm at it, could someone offer a few tips on rooting clippings for propagation for those who might have Catha? You folks in Australia are so much more botanically minded than most I'm used to talking with here in the US. ~Michael~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Cadaver Posted June 17, 2006 (edited) wau, what a scoop Edited April 17, 2007 by darcy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ferret Posted June 17, 2006 nice one, btw is catha not self fertile? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted June 17, 2006 they are self fertile, x breeding means to avoid that from happening. it's hard to say anything about the taste, as the taste depends aswell very much on the growing conditions. i mean a well cared, pounding away plant will have sweet tasting leaves, while a unhappy slow growing one will mostly produce bitter tasting leaves. anyway the leaves tasted very sweet and produced the typical qat sensation (like a sour tasting fruit pulls your gums...) aswell as some numbing. there was definately some rocket boosting sensation felt.... the plant hasn't been clipped, all the branches (note the parallel, pinnate, leave formation!) are naturaly occuring. in contrast the main upright stems display alternate leave formation... i had some frosts a while ago, but all the catha's showed no signs of damage at all! michael broad leaved catha edulis is a very easy cutting, take one 30cm long stem and cut it into 3 node cuttings and leave one (ore two) halve size leave per cutting. the tip cutting naturaly will have more than one leave left but is pruned back a lot aswell. semihardwood is a good source, it might not strike as fast as tip material, but it never damps off either. just put the cuttings into humidety dome for a while and wait... for just a few cuttings the pet bottle glasshouse works very well. good luck! anyway one time i will try a red and narrowleaved cross, unfortunately my reds have never flowered yet, so maybe somebody will beat me to this task. it's easy but a bit of mucking around and one has to be patient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerbil Posted June 17, 2006 beautiful ph, excellent work as always Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted June 17, 2006 ROTFLAMO what id give to hear planthelper talk abou t thsi isn person! especially when he says 'emasculation' good to see p/helper now u know how PLEASE X the red leaf and the narrow leaf thatd make a plant worthy of widepread distribution as an ornamental and even the somalis wouldnt recognise it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Siggor Posted June 17, 2006 (edited) stuff Edited December 11, 2009 by spudamore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woof woof woof Posted June 18, 2006 (edited) Has it ever considerd using a hydraulic press for fresh on the spot quat juice? Suich it around in the mouth a couple of times before swallowing! ;-) Fun to see new cultivars coming into existance! nice job PH! Edited June 18, 2006 by woof woof woof Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pisgah Posted June 18, 2006 PH, that is really cool. Nice cross. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alice Posted June 21, 2006 Superb Planthelper! they look soooo healthy and happy! i look forward to a nibble in a few years time :D ms smith re cuttings, ive found that as long as the feet of the cuttings dont get too wet (ie moist rockwool cubes that are not sitting in water), and you are very patient, you will (eventually!) get cuttings of both broad and narrow to root with a fairly good strike rate. they just take ages to root.. IME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MORG Posted February 2, 2007 Time for a bi-annual update yet? How are these guys going now PH? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Heavily laden Edited December 13, 2017 by naja naja 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oncewhywechange Posted December 13, 2017 I find the seeds to be very variable and not stable. here is my seed grown plant . looks a lot like narrow leaf . 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted December 13, 2017 Yeah, from the ph F2 seeds you get greens, reds, quite a high % look like ph original. But yeah they are variable, not that I think that's bad. It provides for more selection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onyeka Posted January 6, 2018 wow nice plants mate. any chance of getting any seeds when they are ripe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
