Prophet Posted May 31, 2006 Does anyone know where I could possibly find a guarana plant (Paullinia cupana) or some viable seeds? Are they available within australia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted May 31, 2006 no, but soon Might be a year or two before any hit the market though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet Posted May 31, 2006 Do you know of anywhere you can buy viable seeds Torsten? I did a seach but came up with nothing useful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shamantra Posted May 31, 2006 the reason you wont find seeds is because they are very shortly viable. they should be planted whitin a week or two. (or so ive heard) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted May 31, 2006 yes, the seeds are of such short viability that it is almost impossible to get them from the jungle to the airport before they are dead. I have a lot of experience shipping perishable seeds, so we are going to be using my methods next season to attempt this. As a back up we are also getting some rooted cuttings into a country where there is no quarantine restriction. From there we are planning a fully certified plant import into australia. If my seed shipping method works then the locals will use this to distribute more seed around the world which will make it instantly available to a whole lot of collectors. If it doesn't then we will have to propagate vegetatively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet Posted May 31, 2006 Speaking about quarantine and plants, how hard do you think it would be to import some new kava kava cultivars into the country? How costly do you think it would be and what would be involved? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hebrew Posted May 31, 2006 i would lvoe a paulinnia yoco plant but i dont think they are in oz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted May 31, 2006 i would lvoe a paulinnia yoco plantbut i dont think they are in oz Careful! Most Paullinias are EXTREMELY toxic from what I remember. Don't know about yoco, but make sure you research it well. I was trying to import one from africa once and the supplier said he wouldn't even stock the seeds because there was too much danger of someone being poisoned by handling them carelessly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hebrew Posted May 31, 2006 yeah right i never knew that, but i dont much about the plants really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaBReT00tH Posted May 31, 2006 ohh!! What part of the guarana plant do they use for drinks? and how do they prepare it without any toxicity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted May 31, 2006 ohh!! What part of the guarana plant do they use for drinks? and how do they prepare it without any toxicity? the seeds are used for the drink. but only the seeds from one species. the other species are apprently toxic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaBReT00tH Posted May 31, 2006 (edited) ohh ok. Yeah a Paullinia cupana would be awesome! Was previously on my wishlist but was taken off due to the incompatible climate down here. But at the moment I have 7 P Viridis growing in a warm greenhouse inside during 8 degree winter, alongside 2 B Caapis, a Kava, and a Cacao so I reckon a Paullinia Cupana would be able to cope aswell. Edited May 31, 2006 by SaBReT00tH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted May 31, 2006 Speaking about quarantine and plants, how hard do you think it would be to import some new kava kava cultivars into the country? How costly do you think it would be and what would be involved? same as any plant import (inspection, fumigations, 3-6 months quarantine facility). check ICON for conditions. Piper sp are problematic I think in terms of quarantine. You will also need to get a permit from customs (or whoever they send you to) as kava in any form is a controlled drug import. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted June 5, 2006 Paullinia yoco is not toxic in the nasty sense it shravested for the liana sections that are scraped and infused to form a strong caffeine beverage IMHO its far more useful than P cupana and should be a much higher priority imagin eigf it was only the seeds of Banisteriopsis that were useful... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Cadaver Posted June 6, 2006 it's hard to believe that a species that goes to the effort of producing such a medium sized seed full of goodies has such a short viability. Probably a comment made by growers wanting to keep it in the country. Anyone wanting to import seeds of brazillian climbers should be aware of any weed potential, in an ethical sense. It's worth looking into if you beleive in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted June 6, 2006 (edited) i agree it pays not to listen to whats written - often Of the stuff available to me in the beginning so many limits have turned out to be smokescreens in the end ill turn to see even the limits i have set by my own commnetary will prove to be unwoven if you are dealing with recalcitrant seeds then you need to use suitable techniques to stop drying i brought home Salak, mangifera, rambutan and other seeds from Brunei and Bali and they were all germinating by the time they got here- and i had them in my backpack for 3 weeks already theyre all 9maybe excpet salak) seeds that dont tolerate drying just in ziplocks and spaghnum or minimal moist Perlite aqis didnt like it but they let me have it anyway To list some disproven myths Anadenanthera seed stay viable at least 1 year Lagochilus seed is viable for a long while. Salvia divinorum is not tropical, is root hardy to frost and does set viable seed in quantity Kratom seed is viable more than a few weeks Sassy seed is viable - when u know how Trichocereus is fully frost hardy - to -7C and below (Terscheckii and bridge to below -10) Capi is incredibly easy to propagate from leaf bud cuttings of semi hardwood upcoming for the ethno myth busters...:D How to break dormancy of Damiana seeds How to ship viable Kola nuts phlebo success in 2 easy steps whate syrian rue really likes how to ship viable nutmegs why some commercial iboga seeds dont grow ^_^ Edited June 6, 2006 by Rev Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Cadaver Posted June 6, 2006 (edited) exactly. until it is proven and shown with photos etc, these myths aren't worth much. I'm just waiting for more chances to prove these myths wrong thanks. man do those armpits smell like bodo on a hot cogan day Edited October 22, 2007 by Happy Cadaver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet Posted June 7, 2006 Yes well done with the mythbusting Keep 'em coming. I'm in the process of busting one of those myths myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shamantra Posted June 7, 2006 (edited) well true, there might be some hidden agenda behind claiming short viability for certain seeds. I for one heard that E.coca seeds needet to be planted whitin a few weeks but I germinated several that was acouple months old a few years ago. With an ok germ rate also, I belive it was 30-40% , Edited June 7, 2006 by shamantra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twiggy Posted October 6, 2016 I would really like to find Paullinia Cupana (Guarana) seeds please. I am informed that they only have a viability of 72 hours. So I would like to please find some one IN AUSTRALIA that can pick and send them to me when they are ripe. [email protected] Thank you Twiggy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
