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VOTE to have a drug law reform question asked in the Senate!
IceCube replied to IceCube's topic in Chill Space
We won guys - they'll post a youtube video with the response to the top few questions (all drug) -
30 sounds good but I'm easy
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Hey guys, keen for the next one, can someone hook me up with some deets pls :D
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100% keen PM me :D
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I am looking to buy as well if anyone is keen chasing species variability rather than quantity but I've got nothing at the moment
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IceCube replied to Tripitaka's topic in Seed & Plant Swaps
Keen bro!!!! Next person get a HEAP of peres cuttings (thick, untouched for years, displaying spines not glochids - sort of indicates maturity to me), some kava drinking powder FRESH from Fiji, and a Caapi cutting (will have to chill a little bit to make it safe to send ) -
VOTE to have a drug law reform question asked in the Senate!
IceCube replied to IceCube's topic in Chill Space
Thanks m8!!!! I also should say that there are 9 days remaining - not 9 hours Reading fail on my part -
In Brissy - chuck those pics up and I'll probably be interested if you got some solid fellows
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Catha Seed Available Soon - Planthelper's cross
IceCube replied to Hellonasty's topic in Seed & Plant Swaps
2 packs if possible please :D:D REALLY wanna see the phenotypes made from the seeds!!!! Previous ones i have raised had different coloured stems (but died when I went to uni ) -
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/queensland-government-bans-synthetic-drugs-before-schoolies-week-celebrations/story-e6frfku0-1226195262918 Can't find a link to the actual list at the moment, however here it is: 1-Pentyl-3~1-naphlhoyl)indole (JWH 018) 2-((1 R,3S)-3-hydroxycyclohexyl)-5-(2-melhyloclan-2-yl)phenc> (CP 47,497) 9-(hydroxymethyl)-6,6-dimethyl-3-(2-methyloctan-2-yl). 6a, 7,1 0, 1 Oatetrahydrobenzo[c)chromen-1-ol (HU-210) 1-propyl-2-melhyl-3-(1-naphlhoyl)indole (JWH-015) 1-hexyl-3-(1-naphlhoyl)indole (JWH-019) 1-butyl-3-(1 -naphlhoyl)indole (JWH-073) 1-pentyl-3..( 4-methoxy-1-naphlhoyl)indole (JWH-081) 1-Penlyl-3~ 4-melhyl-l-naphlhoyl)indole (JWH.122) 1-[2-(4-Morpholinyl}ethyl)-3-(1-naphthoyl)indole (JWH-200) 2-(4-methoxyphenyl}-1-(1-pentyl-1 h-indol-3-yl)-ethanone (JWH 201 ) 1 -pen lyl-3~2-<:hlorophenylacelyl)indole (JWH 203) 1 -penlyl-3~ 4-elhyl-l-naphlhoyl)indole (JWH 210) 2-(2-Methoxyphenyl )-1 -( 1-pentylindol-3-yI }ethanone (JWH-250) 2-( 3-m elhoxyphenyl )-l-{ 1-pentylindol-3-yI }ethanone (JWH 302) 1-penlyl-3-(4-<:hloro- l -naphlhoyl)indole (JWH-398) 1-pentyl-3-[( 4-methoxy)-benzoyl]indole (RCS-4) 4-methoxyphenyl(1 butyl-1 H-indol-3-yl)-methanone (RCS-4 (C4)) 1-cyclohexylelhyl-3-(2-methoxyphenylacetyl)indole (RCS-8) 1-(5-fl uoropentyl)-~2-iodobenzoyl)i ndole (AM-6I14) 1-(5-fluoropentyl}-3-( 1-naphthoyl)indole (AM 2201) Pravadoline (WIN 48098) 5-(1 , 1-Dimelhyloctyl)-2-((1 R,3S)-3-hydroxycycJohexyl(-phenol (Cannablcyclohexanol or CP 47, 497 C8 Homologue)
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There are other chemicals, but they were the cheapest/most common!
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Thank god! There is still the original clause added in '07: Definition of Dangerous Drug The definition of dangerous drug in section 4 has been amended so as to include a chemical that is an analogue of a dangerous drug (i.e: a drug that is structurally similar and has a similar pharmacological effect to a dangerous drug listed in the DMR). The purpose of this amendment is to target underground chemists who make slight changes to the molecular structure of existing illicit drugs to create new drugs not covered by the law
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Forgot to say that this only comes into effect on 04 April next year: http://www.sclqld.org.au/lu/items/acts/173
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No worries man, update us if you can please and I will pursue some more information as well!
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Thanks for the information! Finally, what are some details on these cases of people being done at the post office? Were they for analogues or specifically listed chemicals and what states? Cheers!
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Just interested about how it "went down" - was 2c-b scheduled and then the guy prosecuted etc etc. What was he doing, what was the defence (specifically why was Sasha called out?), how badly did he get sentenced.... So what is the actual go? I've heard of people importing large amounts of AM-2201 whom were intending to produce incense just having their packages blocked by customs and no more coming from it. It's so hard to obtain information from the govt without just importing the compounds and seeing what happens! How is the federal-state dynamic working at the moment? The media release from the ACT government posted on that site I pasted alludes that only the states have the power to prosecute such matters, whilst I've heard anecdotal reports of people getting raided by the feds for producing one of the synthetic cannabis products on sale in Queensland currently and for example a quote from this website: http://www.cqnews.com.au/story/2011/11/11/is-there-kaos-in-our-mine-sites/ "While synthetic cannabis has been banned in 16 countries and is illegal in Australia, regulation and control is limited, and legislation only outlaws specific compounds," Mr Korkoneas said. For example in section f) how does case law define "substance substantially similar in chemical structure" at the moment? Is there a percentage of atoms that needs to be similar or is it handled on a case-by-case basis etc etc. Any supporting documentation/transcripts would be wonderful. I have access to university databases if someone wants to show me to how look up a case. Furthermore have there been any prosecutions for importation of JWH-like compounds as of yet? And if so, what were the respective outcomes? Do the feds even prosecute controlled drug charges ahead of the states? It would be interesting to see how things like 25c-NBOMe would fit into the Queensland analogue rules as it has quite a unique receptor-binding profile when compared to similar substances. So yeah,happy to put in the man-hours to compile the information, I just need to be shown how to look the stuff up!!!!
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Sorry to derail but here is a cool article I found http://monicabarratt.net/?p=221
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Message me if going very interested
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Hmmmm I was always under the impression that the onus was on the individual states to integrate the TGA scheduling recommendations into their own policies apart from Victoria which apparently does it automatically. Would really love T's take on the whole thing!
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Moreover, is only the importation illegal by this broad wording as you're importing an analogue of a border controlled drug? Once it's in the country it's up to each state's respective laws, right?
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Yeah well the only one that remotely applies is: (i) by the replacement of up to 2 carbocyclic or heterocyclic ring structures with different carbocyclic or heterocyclic ring structures; But the group is being added not substituting an existing one Also interesting thing I just found on the Wikipedia 2c-b article regarding it's legal status (it would be the closest substance to most NBOMes): Australia: Controlled and on the list of substances subject to import and export controls (Appendix B:). Placed on Schedule One of the Drugs Misuse and Trafficking Act when it first came to notice in 1994, when in a showcase legal battle Chemist R.Simpson was charged with manufacturing the substance in Sydney NSW. Alexander Shulgin came to Australia to testify on behalf of the defense.(to no avail). Would be interesting if someone could dig up some more information. I have access to most uni databases if someone tells me what one to query!
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Does anyone have any specific case law examples whereby a "chemical derivative" is defined? This structure (25C-NBOMe) doesn't fit into any of the chemical-based claused:
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IceCube replied to Tripitaka's topic in Seed & Plant Swaps
Yes please gets N. Tobbacium seed and pereskopsis cutting (rooted) -
Whilst I am not sure about the whole anthropogenic climate change, I support changing over to a greener economy. I don't think the tax is the way to do it though, rather an ETS and funding for programs to develop technologies so that money is directly invested in the technology rather than relying on market pressure to force companies to emit less. Think of the carbon sequesteration abilities of hemp!
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Also interested! I found one website in America that sells the seeds, however they don't ship to Aust.