Wile E. Peyote

Doubt it Raver, if you're keen for an alternative an APS event is probably your best event. @Flux?

Ergh one step closer to eating my words. TGA decision has been postponed https://www.tga.gov.au/update-psilocybin-and-mdma-scheduling

Can anyone suggest stock for grafting Pseudolithos? Ideally stock that is easily accessible in Australia. Bonus points if you can recommend a vendor.

Great afternoon, thanks everyone

See ya there

Hope to see you guys tomorrow night

Just linking some relevant discussion from another thread: No, I don't believe this situation has a parallel with these First Nations Australian issues. As a colonial white person I'm always hesitant to discuss indigenous issues, especially from a different country from the one I reside in, but I respect KT as an expert on this, he has dedicated his life to these plants. I've heard similar arguments being made by Martin Terry, most recently in the Peyote Files series. I'm yet to be convinced conservation is at the heart of the NAC's involvement of this issue.

No, I don't believe this situation has a parallel with these First Nations Australian issues fzygy. As a colonial white person I'm always hesitant to discuss indigenous issues but I respect KT as an expert on this, he has dedicated his life to these plants. I've heard similar arguments being made by Martin Terry, most recently in the Peyote Files series. I'm yet to be convinced conservation is at the heart of the NAC's involvement of this issue. Happy to chat about this more, but let's keep it to the in-situ Loph or harvest ethics thread - I'll cross post this reply in one of those. This way we will have a better chance of a reply from a local expert plus I won't get distracted from slinging poo at TDJ.

I'm sure MMA's lobbying has helped make this opportunity occur, I think public attention to psychedelics is the silver lining of their assholery. Fingers crossed MMA will continue to know nothing about science - shouldn't be too hard.

To get the funding they would need to either a) come up with their own research project or b) jump on the back of someone who is capable. Fortunately they don't have the know how for a) and MMA have burned the fingers of too many scientists for b). Gosh I really hope I don't have to eat my words on this one that would hurt...

At least MMA won't be getting any of that money because they have no clue about research, LOL

https://www.health.gov.au/ministers/the-hon-greg-hunt-mp/media/15-million-for-development-of-innovative-therapies-for-mental-illness?fbclid=IwAR1y7LwCz2oQjmUVm4Ei2mS3oaM1hiJMjciKLO0bv13uKTKGNhOYIeju9eQ Thought this deserved it's own thread. Can't get any detail via the grant portal yet, will update as I learn more.

Yeah check it out, this is the press release for the $15 million federal government grant for a psychedelic clinical trial: https://www.health.gov.au/ministers/the-hon-greg-hunt-mp/media/15-million-for-development-of-innovative-therapies-for-mental-illness?fbclid=IwAR1y7LwCz2oQjmUVm4Ei2mS3oaM1hiJMjciKLO0bv13uKTKGNhOYIeju9eQ P.S. NAC are cashing in by trying to monopolise wild harvested Loph. KT suggested most NAC consumers have only been following the tradition for ~100 years at most while people with far older consumption traditions " lack any legal right to consume it since they are not members of federally recognized tribes." Psychedelics be makin' it rain

I think it is more a case of the NAC trying to cash in than concern for conservation, as trucha was explaining just the other week. Maybe TDJ has more in common with drug 'traditions' than is apparent at first glance. In terms of drug law reform, I think conservation is a good way of countering drug stigma by expressing positive narratives about drug use. Kinda similar to the origin of the term entheogen. Psychedelic drug user sounds a lot worse than entheogenic conservationist!

Where we’re going is hard to say, there are a lot of diverse interests intertwined in the drug law reform movement. If its up to me I say let’s get the drugs to the people! But I know I can be irresponsible, so maybe it is good there are other opinions to balance things out