TommyChesnutt

don't you love it, when everyone in the public toilet finishes and walks out, leaving you 10 alone minutes, to do a nice, relaxing poo.

Don't you love caring for cacti? I too, fret at everything, no matter how small - i feel like a worried parent. That'll be fine..

The cactus, that is... If anyone would be willing to part with a cutting i would be very thankful, it looks like a fine, typical peru pachanoi specimen, and i hear it grows very fast. Would prefer to give money, but can trade if need be - have a 50cm blue psycho0 x scop, and a macrogonus or two... Thanks very much corrobo-crew, Hunnicutt EDIT: thanks so much guys, i think i've found a seller: once again, i learn it pays to ask. Cheerios!

That's what i hear too I'm so excited!!

A bridge? how many people could it hold? just kidding... i'm all sorted i think, but thanks ;)

Yeah i could see that not going well... you wouldn't have to take any travel sickness medication though, hahaha.. Hey Slice, superglue some trich seeds to the inside of your nose. And your scalp, under large locks of hair. And underneath your toe nails (seal them in, it easily passes off as dirt).. And lastly... do you, perchance, own a foreskin?

although not having anything personally, and you probably are already aware as well - but ebay usually has some interesting things going (right now, for example!) also remember herbalistics and the SA store.. good luck

So for those "in the know", this is actually a very complex and secret nutrition ratio... shame on you whoami for releasing this into the public... see, now everyone knows...

i wonder if that's from the thuje?

I pee on all my cacti ...Except for the ones i sell. I, uh, don't pee on those. ...

^ wait...you're not thinking catnip are you? That was heaps used instead of hops at one stage... I can report that catnip tea is definately relaxing. it has... Nepala-something... some kind of flavanoid... its basically like mescaline to 50% of cats, apparently... high, horny and sometimes CATatonic...

Oh man. Big question. So from my own perspective, I would theorise that at one stage there was simply a small genetic variance of a single columnar cactus... then from that variance, perhaps cereus, tricho, blue myrtle etc all branched via certain isolated geographic pockets. If I were then to pick the genotype of the trichocereus branch, i would surmise it to be either a rough tescheckii or a many ribbed peruvianus form. But basically, something with spines, as many of the old-world creatures that used to exist in South America would otherwise have demolished the population via nutritional source - i.e., i could see a smooth San Pedro being a tasty snack for one of those colossal vegetarian bears, etc.. But otherwise, there is honestly no way we can really tell, unless someone were to do an extensive demographic and DNA study to figure out the recession of particular genes - or unless there was a fossil specimen found, and we could match the genetic structure strand by strand... but yeah can't see that happening any time soon, really.. In any event, in a recent cacti thread, Ms Smith seemed to be agreeing with the assumed consensus that anything after the original genotype was likely a clusterfuck of an Homo Sapiens influenced demographic. ...It sure is fun to theorise though!!!

guys, try salvia guaranitica - it has a marked benzo effect due to its content of cirsiliol, which is a flavanoid. Cirsiliol is clinically more effective than ambien, which is a commonly prescribed benzo in the states. i don't recommend a tea, it tastes like ass - smoking has a MARKED effect, or just chew up a few leaves. i promise you'll have a minor "holy shit...i feel something" moment... also, the plant is used among the natives in some south america localities as - a sedative widely available commercially - should be some at bunnings in a few weeks.

Classical conditioning. I like it. Alice thoes are some beautiful cuts at cheap prices, i hope you do well.

How much for the beer?

Ey folks, So in our world there is this thing called 'money'. Unfortunately without it, we can't do some very important things - like, eat (just throwing out ideas here).. Hence i'm selling these specimens below; i do not have exact measurements as i didn't have a tape at the time, but for reference MY BOOT IS 32cm -Labelled from #1, left to right, down the page -Buyer pays postage guys!!! i know we all hate that but unfortunately it's the way these things go -Cacti that have roots will be trimmed and cleaned to save your postage cost. Unless of course you would like some more dirt. I do not have a problem with this. -My boot is not for sale. Actually, make me an offer. #1: $50 - sold #2: $30 - sold #3: $30 - sold #4: $20 - sold #5: $25 - sol #6: $60 - Bridgesii x Pachanoi. Or Pachanoi x Bridgesii. Gender swapping is pretty regular in my garden. Sometimes even for the plants. #7: $20 - sold #8: $30 - sold #9: $55 - Scop x Psycho0. #10: $30 - sold these last guys are rough cuts, and are therefore a bit cheaper --- #11: $20 - sold #12: $20 - Scop x Bridgesii trunk. #13, 14, 15: $25, some kind of Pachanoi (?) price is for the three together. Once confirmed, i send - quote you the price and postage - bank deposit please Let me know if any questions or queries. Cheers.

Wait, so we can assume that much of the Trichocereus variation is man-made? That is an epic feat. I always thought that populations of Echinopsis evolved naturally - and that 'dead zone' occured simply because some kind of environmental influence over time seperated the two 'patches'. I wish i knew what the motives of Andean cultures were to do this (besides the obvious...). Perhaps they didn't need any other motive? All history says is that it was an esteemed plant and revered by the locals - but how the heck did it travel and morph to such an extent, if it was truly just 'carried'? Surely there must be alot more environmental influence involved?? Or perhaps the revered status of these plants is alot older than we thought, and the distribution happened many more thousands of years ago.. enough time for reasonable variation of the genus to occur...

I'll echo this question. As per MS Smiths' Trich map, it would be in the Northern area - Between Peru and Ecuador. However, there are also short spined populations around Matucana. So the only trick is getting a reliable source for these seed types. We may have a checkmate... unless anyone has a contact?

And if not, how can we import it? Many have theorised, for at least a decade now, that our much revered 'PC-PACH' Is actually an Huanucoensis X. Or a Scopulicolus x Bridgesii. Or a Bridgesii x Cordobensis. Or... ... So the only species of Echinopsis/Trichocereus 'Pachanoi' that i know of amongst the waters of our community is the KK339. This is a plant that in my opinion WOULD fit the classic Pachanoi description - At least from most of the grow-outs I've seen from Karel Knize (one grow admittedly looked very Macrogonus). This cactus is a beautiful plant, and at least in my eyes, worthy of collection. However - looking at all the Pachanoi varieties from our American members, I can't help but feel a little left out. I'm sure i can't be the only one. Therefore, I'm trying to solve my dilemma by doing a bit of research here.. As a casual cactus hobbiest I've heard rumours that we can actually import Echinopsis seeds without too much hassle - no doubt this is why we have Karol Knize, IcarosDNA and SS material, correct? So, as a community, do we have any members that have friends, or sources in Peru/Ecuador, that could provide seed of different Pachanoi varieties? I hear that Karel Knize is no longer active(?), and unreliable. IcarosDNA, whilst contributing vastly to our collections of Macro/Peruvianoids, does not live anywhere near the Pachanoi territory (observing from MS Smiths' Map ) Sacred Succulents have plants that i hear to be Pachanoi - the variety Kimnach, and another called Torres & Torres(spelling). Has anyone tried/and/or successfuly imported seed of these types? The ethnobotanical interest of plants, but especially cacti, is growing, and growing in Australia. Many of us are now making our own crosses, and i'm not talking about the serious collectors amongst us - i'm talking folks who have a trich or two, which tend to flower now and again. I have personally been contacted for pollen by friends who i would not even consider having an interest in species variation. This is all not to say the varieties offered by our local ethnobotanical shops aren't absolutely great (a-HEM..) Nor do i discredit all those fantastic people that make all these crazy crosses.. (My jaw literally dropped a few years back when i read the words 'Terscheckii x Psycho0'...) But i feel we could be doing more as a community to increase our variety of SOURCE MATERIAL - from South America - and not just by relying on our local vendors to provide. Note that this doesn't just go for Echinopsis spp. - there are distinct other variants of cacti (or normal plants for that matter!), scattered throughout the Americas, that would hold Ethnobotanical purpose/heritage/interest towards our Australian collections. Anyone please feel free to add discussion, info/documenting regarding importing, possible contacts, leads, etc... I'd also like to say, this post was not an attack, or a gripe at all, just a theoretical observation by a casual hobbiest.. give me an argument if i'm wrong, i'm listening..

That link is invaluable, thanks so much - answers some of my questions totally - i thought i had read all the pinned, but i guess that was a year and a bit back. Cactuscarl, i too have seen pachanoi - 'akin' plants... but it is exactly how you say, we don't have the diversity range of what i have observed to be the truer 'old world' plants. I agree, i believe that it's all still theory - no-one has the time, or the resources, to do a serious document of the west coast of America. And i also agree that theoretically, one can then look at any PC Pach or Pachanoi 'akin' and claim, "that is Pachanoi". But for those of us who have seen the pictures of the medicine stalls in peru, and the wild cultivars that have such pleasant growth habits, I am reminded that i have never seen a 'spineless' Pachanoi phenotype per Britton and Rose, nor what was originally identified as the KK242, Nor the a-typical Matucana Pachanoi. I will take it upon myself to do a bit more research here, and study that link provided by Zelly - in the meantime, If i were to order seed, would anyone else be interested? I just need to make sure that everything is all completely legal and that i won't get a fine or criminal record, etc. () Could anyone else who has sucessfully, or unsuccessfully purchased Echinopsis seed perhaps chime in and tell us the result? ie, Who you ordered from, subsequent growth rates, true to expected phenotype etc...

So I can't help but think, those first couple look a bit like what we call 'Roseii'... Maybe that's just the variation of the Roseii specimens i've seen, though. Beautiful plants, and love the variations.

So, just a question(s) here.... Why is there such a massive gap between the Chan Chan KK339-ers and the rest of the trichos? Is that just the way they evolved? (or, ie, someone migrated to chan chan a couple of millenia back from bolivia/peru and brought a typical phenotype with them?) Are there trichos that inhabit that space in between? Or is it just a 'dead zone'? If there are trichos in between, what kind and type are they? Are there reports of sacramental use in that gap? Or are they simply respected as local flora ? I definately feel the curious badger on this one..

nice find! that's like a kk339 with latina curves, behbeh!

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0063972 5 days old, guys God, I love fuck-you officer science in the morning. By the way, Classical Psychedelic use is - shown ONCE AGAIN - to be fine. (...Ps: LSD is still a grey area - but cacti and Mushrooms are reported clear)

Gone. like Hendrix.