Sonny Jim

"Do you have an addictive personality or no?" extremely, I become emotionally dependant on pot no doubt. I do feel very sad, lonely even when I get home from work and there's none. edit: same when I wake up in the morning and there's none LOL "The most common withdrawal symptom I've heard about from people attempting to quit involves lucid dreams and waking up in night sweats." I get the dreams, day 2 or 3 like a charm, but this is a good thing, at least for me. it can get a bit claustrophobic for me after a few months without vivid dreams. edit I am not posting to tell you all how lucky I am. I am posting because I know what it's like to be physically addicted to drugs, and I want to say that for me and the people I know in real life. Pot just isn't like that. I don't know about synthetics, I have never tried them and they're actually hard to get where I live.

"Anyone who thinks u don't get withdrawals from mj is either stoned or never smoked pot b4 in their life." HA! I'm being serious I really don't get any withdrawals when I quit smoking and I; smoke at least a half ounce of nice hydro per week have reduced my intake right down to zero for up to one month or longer and have done countless times. For example I always drop down to zero pot for at least 15 days before end of semester exams. I have always taken a little while to get to sleep (since child hood) and that returns with out pot but not to the extent that I have really suffered and to be clear I don't consider this withdrawals. I am not being contrary for the hell of it, I usually look forward to temporarily quitting pot (as long as its my decision) during the lead up to my exams because the improvement in cognition and short-term memory is very noticeable, it's almost a high in its self . I'm not trying to say some people don't experience what they say they're experiencing just that my experience with cannabis is about 20 years long now and I have never heard of it anywhere except online.

maybe under the eyes of our tyrannical drug laws 1.5lb of pot is reason enough to send an adult to jail and spread all kinds of nasty rumours about the way that big bag of pot abused and traumatised their children if they have any but 1.5lb of pot is what a lot of home growers would need to produce over the summer to smoke for the rest of the year. not saying your calling for this bloke with the daisies tyo be hurt or anything, I just like writing stuff about pot and what have you...man

I thought the Our Drug War documentaries were good. David Icke interviews an African Shaman (Credo Mutwa) about the Zulu people and what the Zulu people say is the real history of Africa and the world.

There's a Lateline episode I watched about Ecuador that shows some of President Chavez's attitude to the media in his own country. They paint President Chavez as being very controlling of the Ecuadorian media and kind of going to war against them. Ecuador: No haven for the media Makes me wonder about how safe he is with Chavez but I suppose the support of a sovereign nation can't be a bad thing when everyone else has turned their back on him. edit:their there

I want to add that for me personally, the only thing I notice three days after I stop smoking (after smoking perhaps one half ounce per week of typical high grade hydro for several months straight) is increased mental cognition (mild but noticeable) and sometime a changes in my dreams for one or two nights. I actually feel very slightly better three days after I stop smoking, not that I feel unwell when I'm smoking I just feel a bit stoned when I wake up most morning and waking up without pot in my system feels noticeably different I can't think of a single person, except online, that's commented otherwise. Not that I'm saying it's complete fiction but it certainly doesn't happen to everyone. I wonder what gives with that because I can't think of another agonist style drug that only induces physiological dependence in some people and not others

^^^ what he said thanks nabraxas

I want to go a bit further and state that I believe alcoholic withdrawal is much more commonly felt by daily drinkers than is commonly recognised. Like it's not in any of the anti drink propaganda (not that there's much of that to begin with) but I think that knowledge was important for me in addressing the bad effect daily drinking was having on me. I have actually all but quit alcohol for the past couple of years, completely lost my taste for it which has been great for my weight.

Torsten how much alcohol? defintiely too much for me 1-2 bottles of wine, not only and always wine, could be bear, spirits or pure distilled alcohol I am certain that alcohol has the effect of creating or worsening the bad anxiety I had on waking from an alcohol induced sleep because it's happened so many times and cessation of alcohol, before sleepy time fixed this completely. Well i was still in benxos witrhdrawal but the effect of the alcohol had been removed. Don't get me wrong, a little bit might help a lot but there's the whole cross tolerance thing as well which are gonna make you drink more anyway. edit: typos, clarity, you name it

I had another look through this thread and I want to back up what torsten said about this being a good opportunity to give benzos the flick completely. I believe benzos are simply too toxic for daily use in human beings, we know they cause brain damage akin to heavy alcoholic brain damage and 7mg of xanax is quite a large dose. There are alternatives that are more effective and much safer than benzos, they might be a little harder to get but it's not at all impossible to find a doctor/psychiatrist who will treat you with medications that want destroy you on several fronts. All the best with this by the way, I really feel for people going through benzo withdrawal and I want to remind you not to underestimate the mind screwing effect of these withdrawals. In fact, I hope you don't have to experience withdrawal and are able to work something more suitable out. Sorry for being intentioanlly vague, I don't like to be but I don't want to pretent to be your doctor, I just suggest that you look beyond toxic gabanergic drugs for a xanax replacement.

lots of opinions when it comes to this topic but let me say this from my own personal experience Using alcohol to deal with benzo withdrawal is hands down the worst drug decision I have ever made. The alcohol seemed to not only prolong the withdrawal but it induced the most painful rebound anxiety in combination with the benzo withdrawal. I'd wake up sober after having a few bears to get some sleep and be so anxious it hurt terribly for about 10 minutes, every day for months on end. Thank god that's all years ago now but people aren't exaggerating when they say benzo withdrawal can last over a year in duration. I'd recommend kicking that stuff anyway you can, even if you trade it in for some other better known less insane alternative you'd be winning IMHO

I agree it's very important. I got a cold shiver when our fed Labore gov told us recently that we needed the army to rapidly turn some islands above Australia into prison islands/concentration camp islands/detention centres. Island prison camps built for Australia based on the obviously false premise which goes something like: The "boat people" refugees (fixed )are a threat to us because: some are terrorists we don't like foreign types and a huge swathe of the Aussie populace seem to enjoy pretending they don't understand the simple fact that most of the huge ethnic enclaves that they hate in the suburbs are created by legal immigration. A lot of people bought into the false hope that federal Labor would help us to address the spiritual damage the Libs inflicted on us with the "children overboard" scandal et al but it seems so politically uncool at the moment to be against racism, hence the cold sweat I experienced when they used the cover of the Olympic closing ceremony to tell us about the urgent need for prison islands to be built by the army in our name. I think the idea of turning an island into a prison is abhorrent to anything good in our societies collective nature. I don't think there is a real need to build the prisons but I think doing so will cause us real harm.

very interesting videos, I have watched them all thanks qualia regarding Stephen Colbert I think he is in character. from the his Wikipedia page "Colbert hosts the show in-character as a blustery right-wing pundit, generally considered to be an extension of his character on The Daily Show".

cool post ballzac! more people need to start treating this as the savage abuse of human rights it is. So many people are currently in jail in this "free" country and so many children have lost their parents to the enforcement of drug laws buts that's been OK for decades because drug user's are scum

There's a you tube clip where Joe Kittinger explains that one of the spacesuit's gloves malfunctioned in some way causing his hand to be exposed to the extreme conditions during the 1960 jump. From memory he suffered a very painful injury to his hand from the extreme pressure difference and temperature.

bloody inspirational stuff there faustus!

"When will they learn that "war on drugs" is war against your own children, family, workmates - your own people i.e. it is government declared civil war?" jeesus man!, that made me a shiver. what a fantastic way to put it!

oh no! I have killed the thread but seriously, does anyone know enough about homoeopathy to be able to tell me if the above is a fair point. No water = no homoeopathic remedies.

I have studied homoeopathy as a part of a degree I completed years ago. It was only half a semester, intro to homoeopathy type subject. Apparently there are private colleges where one studies for up to four years to become "qualified", qualified in the eyes of one of the numerous homoeopathic and natural/alternative medicine professional associations. I have always had a one big problem with homoeopathy that my lecturer was not able to address nor has it really been discussed very much, so I thought I would bring it up. The problem is that pilules (spelling? I am talking about the little white spherical sugar pills that are made into homoeopathic remedies) are bone dry. but one of the fundamental principals behind homoeopathy is the idea that water has a "memory". That water will retain an imprint or will be somehow changed (indefinitely). So for example, an aqueous solution of atropine is serially diluted 10, 20, 100 times to the desired "potency" (in inverted commas because the homoeopathic idea of potency is quite different to the pharmacological sense). I can't remember the exact figure but at some level of dilution there will close to nothing or nothing left of the atropine but the water it was dissolved in has been changed in someway, so that it's now imprinted with the memory of atropine. I should add that I'm not sure if "memory" or "imprint" are the correct homoeopathic terms to describe this proposed property of water, I am using them because they are simplest way to describe what I understand of homoeopathy. I don't take issues with the way homoeopaths claim water behaves, that may or may not be true. It's just a theory that some people believe. Obviously, what gets me is that there is no water in a lot of the remedies being sold. Well, I am currently studying 2&3rd year chem as a part of a new degree and I can understand that the sugar pills will not be completely anhydrous and there will be some water left in sugar pills that appear to be dry and I also understand that there may also be water molecules associated with the crystalline structure of the solids that make up the sugar pills. But, it occurs to me that even if water does behave in the homoeopathic way, the act of soaking sugar pills in it may somehow serve to bugger up the waters "memory" of atropine. If water does behave in the way homoeopaths claim, won't the water's atropine imprint be messed up by it's tendency to try to make an imprint of the molecules that get dissolved in it i.e. the sugar and what ever else the pills are made out of? I mean wouldn't you end up with either water with atropine/sugar/other binders imprint or some jumbled mess of imprints? What about the liquid remedies? They have ethanol as an added preservative. It is not like ethanol is a special case and it has special properties that don't effect the water. According to homoepathic principle, everything can be made into a remedy, so that a pretty powerful contradiction. The underlying principals of homoeopathy might be true, might be great, might be crap. I don't know, what I do know is that there are some huge gaps in the theory of homoeopathy and the actual practice of it. My homoeopath lecturer was very, very knowledgeable. He had study for 4 years and practised privately for years as well. He really knew his homoeopathy and could make some very well considered arguments in its defence but my simple question about the absence of water in a sugar pills were always kind of glossed over. I didn't want to push it because I was genuinely scared (forgive me, I was but a child) that I was right and there is no answer and a large part of the homoeopathic industry are selling sugar pills because in theory (homoepathic theory) it is impossible to make a homoeopathic remedy out of crystalline sugar.

I have not tried this but it sounds like an awesome beverage. Especially with fresh, quality material I think this would be the perfect answer to a rough and tired early morning start.

it actually tastes like cola i.e. coca-cola but unsweetened. The raw nuts chewed have a very mild but noticeable cola flavour, though the nuts are quite corky/woody and it is hard to get much of the cola taste from them. At least in my experience, I am not sure how fresh they were. They had been roughly pulverised and were quite hard and dry.

I hadn't heard of fungal lung problems that relate to cannabis, thanks for posting C_T and Distracted.

This gives me a chance to ask a question that I wonder about every time people talk about the water vapour/bong issue. I thought water vapour was supposed to be good for your lungs. Steam inhalations with eucalyptus oil etc or even just water vapour from a hot shower. Bong water can get very nasty very quickly. Is that the main concern people have? (water droplets contaminated with high concentrations of microbes or solutes from the smoke in nasty old bong water) I also wonder how much water vapour actually gets to your lungs when using a bong that is ~30cm long. edited for clarity

^^^yes this is potentially such a huge concern for many people. but I think if it goes to court it is run past a clinical toxicologist who will try to determine the level in your blood and try to work out if it was likely that you were under the influence at the the time of testing. That is what happened to me. I got pulled over and taken in a paddy wagon to the local hospital to have a blood test. Several months later the toxicologist report said that there was cannabis in my system but not enough to indicate that I was under the influence at the time of being tested. I hadn't smoked at all for ~ 3 weeks leading up to the police drug driving test but I am typically a daily smoker, so I am very concerned that the amount in my system in the morning from the previous night could get me in a lot of trouble one day. There must be some way to fool the mouth swabs, I'd love to experiment with a box of them.

I like these three a lot 2 Singularities (Anesthesia) Paraphasia Crash Perfect outlines, colour and flow. They kinda flow like graffiti pieces.