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Ed, may your cactus hit the sky and the sambar hit the ground. You'll be missed like crazy my friend, hope you didn't suffer and are now at peace tough fella. absolutely gutted. keep ya chin up DL. RIP fella.

Don't get too caught up on distribution descriptions they are important but also quite generalised at the best of times and that also goes for taxonomic info and photos, it's best to use multiple sources and focus on unique features of the potential species in order to whittle things down. It's still worth getting it ID'ed by someone else as I found it difficult to pick up diagnostic features in your photos and used a lot of guess work, they are quite similar plants. Don't let it get to you if it's not what you expected. Good luck with your endevours.

Are you sure that's D. myoporoides and not Myoporum montanum?

Acacia melanoxylon by the looks of it.

What I find really sad is that action is generally only taken to real or perceived problems when it starts impacting the lives of politicians, from small things like Hockey not being able to get an extra chair and pull tables together outside a pizza shop due to council regs so he has a hissy fit, all the way to their families being impacted by the war on drugs be it cancer and access herbal alternatives or addictions within their families. It's a pity money and education benefits can't be fully restricted from offspring of these people 'cause we might actually get action on housing affordability and *gasp* move towards free education. But we wouldn't want an educated, healthy population with a roof over their head that they own now would we.

Private Message me to place an order. $2 packing, postage and handling within Australia, payment via bank deposit. Unfortunately I can't send to TAS or WA, I just can't comprehend the legalities of the different departments and am finding conflicting information, sorry for the inconvenience. Trichocereus hybrids (primary pollinators were scopulicola and super pedro, though some pc pachanoi type was also used and fruits mixed) super pedro x scopulicola and pc pachanoi type $4 for 50+ seeds. scopulicola x super pedro and pc pachanoi type $4 for 50+ seeds. pc pachanoi type x super pedro and scopulicola $4 for 50+ seeds. Thanks.

It's lovely to see you around trout, thanks for taking the time for doing your work and so freely sharing it. I find all your writings to be some of the most refreshing and thought provoking pieces out there and are thoroughly enjoyed. Your lophophora talk is one of if not the best presentation that i've seen (and not limiting the comment to it's field and subject matter!). It's a privellage for us all to be in communication and presence with you, top notch no bullshit criticisms and ammendment welcome scientific work, the sort of science I resonate well with. Looking forward to this new piece. Thanks a heap fella, your work is immensely appreciated!

I actively kill them or kill by ignoring them, I don't think they're worth the time and energy with the view that there are more important things to do with propagation and breeding, especially in the context of limited space and time. I think of your stock I noticed them more frequently than others in small sowings of lumberjack x juuls like the specimens that jox posted. But they did occur over a few of your hybrids in similar small sowings. I never really took notes or communicated any of it when I possibly should have if others are interested. I just don't really comprehend the desire for these things, I can understand my hypocrisy in the context of how nice TBM's and similar plants are and do have the desire to bring into life similar things, but for the majority of them feeding the compost heap is the best thought process for me.

They are good papers zed240, came across the mild mottle virus one the other day and did some half arsed searching for pictures but only found that black and white one in the paper. I was hoping for some better pictures in colour since the paper has been out for 10 years but came up with nothing, but probably more so my search skills! I'm glad the mottle virus doesn't cause crests haha think i'm the odd one out around here, not really wanting crests as well as wanting to compost variegates!

That little fella is probably a thrip and besides the mottling they can cause are said to be a vector for some virus such as the Tospovirus genus and other chlorotic type viruses. Oddly it's claimed they aren't a direct vector for Tobamovirus but possibly their pierce and sucking nature can introduce those types indirectly. EG, how where the specimens that you've seen identified as positive for TMV, are there field tests or is lab analysis needed? Where these lab analysed or just keyed out and thought to be Tobamoviruses? Outside of nutrients and waterlogged soil symptoms, the photos in post 15 appear to be quite classic as to what i'd claim is in everyones collection in Australia and quite possibly in every single plant. What do you make of this, particularly in context of thoughts to quarrantine and or kill such specimens? To me these sorts of viruses are persistant and endemic in our collections and unrealistic to fully treat and eradicate. Some folks over the years have shown quite severe cases of what could be these types of these viruses, but most appearances of these possible types seem to do no real observable damage and as said are persisant in our collections.

I always struggle identifying nutrient deficiencies / toxicities / unavailabilities and things like bacterial and viral infections. Everytime i solidify nutrient issues with backed up reasearch, a curve ball comes and everything crashes down and leaves me in utter confusion. Different plant genus and species seem to show different symptoms of the same issues, indicating to me different ways of metabolism/storage/environmental interaction or suceptabilities and specific contexts of a given issue. Group with this different soils, environmental influences, different cultural practices, fertilisers and their applications and local and introduced influences be it animal/insect or product availabilties and their sources, it gets to be a hair pulling exercise in diagnosis. Very limited numbers of people spend their lives dedicated to studying plant physiology and interactions, whilst even then their knowldge can be a specialty limited to a genus, species and or within a very specific environmental context be in a field, greenhouse and state or country. You can read multiple descriptions of things like nutrient deficiencies and get wildly different answers, it often takes hours of researching to find a single sentence that can bring all things together, and context can confirm, deny and sway the information. I think there are endemic viral issues with the species we work with, or possibly all are simply infected due to our very limited plant numbers and proximity of specimens with some possibly being suceptible, others immune, or possibly some just showing symptoms whilst others carry but never show or will only show given a specific trigger. I get similar chlorosis all through my collection, halo type rings, small pin chlorotic spotting, running/weaving/spreading type chlorosis. I think some are viral and some are nutrient issues. It can often be worse for me in wet winters in poor soils with out of whack nutrient profiles in the soils and applications. Currently (and generally always have) am getting a lot on TBM's and PC type pachs, not exclusively but they always seem the most obvious. Yowie seems more susceptible to tip pin like chlorosis from cold / frost 'damage'. Mesophyllic cell collapse seems to fit a lot of the time, though i'm lacking education and understading regarding it's causes. Calcium I think can be the cause sometimes, due to a deficiency or unavailability. It can be from cold fluids/soils/air, but also from lack of water and dry environments. I've seen photos of water stressed (drought i think) halo like chlorosis mesophyllic cell collapse in citrus essentially identical to PC type pach symptoms. Although the halo type chlorosis feels viral to me for unknown reasons. These chlorosis symptoms of potential nutritional and or viral/bacterial origins as well as black rot are something I really want to understand more so they can be actively avoided and increase education of plants and environments. I think the answers will primarily come from understanding soils, it's an uphill battle particularly with fucked up education and commercial interests with fertiliser companies that we are unavoidably intertwined in. Clarifying information with such companies is more often than not a completely useless excercise with parroted tow the line rhetoric. If people are unaware (in my opinion) the agricultural/horticultural industries are essentially the same and or inextricably tied in with the same issues that we are (or are becoming) aware of in relation to health care / pharmaceutical industries agenda.

I think it looks like the peruvianus YT sourced around '05 (from mother plants in south aus i assume) on bottom of pg 16 and top of 17 in the cactus gallery. If the person selling this was on the forums or still is, it may be worth asking them who they sourced it from, or looking for their posts to solidify information instead of flying blind.

It's quite difficult on the ground on a good day and even more difficult with photos grouped with limited diagnostic features, you'd benefit yourself to log as much info as possible and return for pod and seed observations. Talking to folks who planted it can also be beneficial. If it's council plantings it's possibly even easier to narrow things down. First one may be A. ligulata/A bivenosa ssp wayi, or something around the A. bivenosa group Second one may be A. hakeoides.

Sources are possibly out of date/revised, so look around for the appropriate version of things. Name that flower - Ian Clarke and Helen Lee. Look around some places are charging excessive amounts. Growing Australian Native Plants from Seed - Murray Ralph Seed Collection of Australian Native Plants - Murray Ralph

Beautiful Michael. That first shot is a stunner, the photo is great, but the columns presence in the landscape is perfect, the morphology and surrounding ecology just works. It's a real shame we can't landscape like that down here, plants would be hacked then backyard collection would disappear during the night. Your photo is liberating and succinctly communicates my despair/stress of living in an untrustworthy society! Thanks for sharing!

I'd lump it in with the Ecuador / Peruvian T. pachanoi. ('Short spine peruvianus') Michael's post 9 has succinct explanation and good photos. http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=15744#entry162601

Really impressive interbeing you have been busy. The diversity is really nice, some of those terscheckii looking fellas are scary big, I reckon they'd take most of the fence with them haha. The wattle looks great too! You guys must have something called sunshine up there? Thanks for the update, was a pleasure going back through the thread and seeing the progression. Look forward to it's future!

I would like to get lots out to people but it's been a slow process of propagation due to various limitations. Come spring/summer I can make a better assessment as to where I am at with propagation. I am trying to establish a good propagation base for them and not rid myself of too much biomass so I don't take a step back as simple decisions can have consequences radiating out into yearly+ timeframes. The end goal is to get things established and breeding, so eventually I hope to get these seed cuts out to as many folk as possible.

Stubborn stump. Doesn't really want to move, others pup and stall. One of those plants that does things when it is well and ready. G7 Icaro Older spination. G4.

Seed grown that produces severely angled and wavy spination. G6 Medicine Garden redspine from Herbalistics