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I hope this brings you a little joy. Feel free to post others too. Laughter truly is the best medicine.

Don’t call it a smoking product. From my (limited) understanding herbal anything immediately implies human therapeutic use and then you’ll have a massive headache with many expensive TGA hurdles to overcome if it’s a manufactured product. It’s designed to be a barrier to entry so that the big boys dominate and keep out new players that might have a product of worth that threatens the status quo. I’ve seen many examples where a smoking product is called ‘incense’ or just mislabelled, often with the words not for human consumption on the label. I’ve even seen an winking emoticon on the end of that sentence too. An example off the the top of my head is Amyl Nitrite which is sold as leather cleaner and I think even room deodoriser and successfully circumvented all the nonsense. Nitrous oxide aka cream bulbs would be another example. I’m sure there’s many. “The only thing that saves us from the bureaucracy is its inefficiency.”

When man will treat his fellow man As man should treat his neighbor, Then every man will have in full The product of his labor. When man will gladly recognise In every man a brother, Then will he scorn to live upon The labor of another. When man depends upon himself, With nothing to inherit. Then every man will stand or fall According to his merit. Then every new device would aid And not retard the plan, And every new invention be A benefit to man. There's nothing standing in the way Except our inner blindness; And if this inner man should wake, 'Twould flood the world with kindness. And if it's free we wish to be, And safe within his keeping, Then we should wake the king within For he is only sleeping. The carnal man is on the throne; He's but a false aspirant; As long as man will give him sway, He'll rule him like a tyrant. This carnal man is robbed and crowned, Demands a princely dower; 'Tis time that man should call a halt, Deprive him of his power. The inner man should be the king, And he should wear the crown. The king's within, he must be heard; He can not, will not, down! One road to the Millennium — There is but one, my brother; Tis founded on unselfish love, The joy you give another.

Welcome. I greet you in the Love and Light. I currently have available: Traditional Extract - Sceletium Tortuosum - Kanna - (approx) 5.0g Total cost is $10 including free postage anywhere in Australia. Payments via PayPal. Made with love, care and attention. If you are interested, please send me a message. GENERAL NOTES Sceletium tortuosum is a member of the Aizoaceae family and is native to South Africa. The genus contains 8 species. Sceletium tortuosum was one of the species used to prepare ‘Kanna’. Utilised by the Khoi tribes and San tribes of Africa as a stimulant, hypnotic and as a sedative. Kanna was highly valued by tribesman and they believed it aided them to travel long distances with neither food nor water. The traditional method of preparation was to use the whole plant. It was crushed between two flat rocks before fermenting it for 7 days. It was then removed and dried in the sun for use. Kanna can be chewed, smoked, insufflated, made into a tincture or used in a tea. Contains Mesembrine, Mesembrenone, Mesembrenol, Tortuosamine and others alkaloids. It has been reported that the stems and roots contain up to 30% more active ingredients than the leaves. Concentrations range from 0.05 - 2.3% in the dry product, with Mesembrine being the major alkaloid. TRADITIONAL USE During the early seventeenth century, reports from missionaries and explorers in southern Africa described how the Khoikhoi, an indigenous tribe native to the region, also known colloquially as Hottentots to white colonists, would chew, sniff or smoke an inebriant that was locally known as Kanna. The fervor with which the Hottentots smoked Kanna was noted by all the early travelers to the region. It was only speculation that this “tobacco” identified as Kanna by the Hottentots was Sceletium tortuosum since, unfortunately, most of the reports on its use neglected to provide any actual information about the botanical source of the substance. It was not until the end of the nineteenth century that it was suggested that Kanna may have been prepared from the plant Mesembry anthemum, for this species was also referred to as ‘Kanna’ in South Africa. However, early reports of experimentation with this plant by pioneering psychonauts did not reveal effects that were particularly interesting or exciting. At around the same time, other individuals were suggesting that Kanna came from Sceletium tortuosum. It was only as recently as the early 1990s that the first actual ethnobotanical evidence of the psychoactive use of Sceletium tortuosum was attained. Kanna is now identified as Sceletium tortuosum, and is also known by other popular names such as Kougoed, Canna, Canna-root, Channa, Gunna, and Tortuose fig-marigold, depending on its region of origin within South Africa. The plant is originally from South Africa, in the so-called ‘Kanna Land’. Sceletium tortuosum and other Sceletium species have become more and more rare in South Africa, and are increasingly difficult to find for indigenous tribes. In contemporary South Africa, Kanna is now used primarily as an agent of pleasure; it is used in the same way that Cannabis is used in Western society. Kanna is the same name used by the South African Bushman to refer to the Eland Antelope. The Eland, or the Kanna, is regarded as a “trance animal” of extraordinary abilities. Since pre-historic times, the Eland antelope has played a central role as a magical ally in many ceremonies and is closely associated both with the rain makers and with divination rituals, healing practices, and communal trance dances. The plant Kanna, or Sceletium tortuosum, appears to have been used as part of these rituals. The Hottentots apparently chewed Kanna for ritual and healing dances, or smoked it together with Cannabis. Like the South African Bushmen, the Hottentots also used the name Kanna to refer to the magical Eland antelope, which they also incorporated in numerous rituals. The herbaceous Kanna plant, which closely resembles the modern-day leaf succulent house plant ‘chicks and hens’, grows as tall as six inches. It has fleshy roots, a smooth and thick-set stalk, and low-growing branches that spread out laterally. The thick, angular, fleshy leaves do not have stalks but are attached directly to the branches. The pale yellow flowers are approximately one to one and one-half inches across and are attached to the ends of the branches. The plant produces angular-shaped fruits with small seeds. Kanna is more popularly known as Kougoed, and is easily confused with other members of the genus Sceletium. Those species that look similar, have comparable effects, and contain the same active alkaloid Mesembrine. The leaves and stalks of the plant contain Mesembrine, along with lower levels of Mesembrinine and Totuosamine. The leaves also appear to contain Oxalic acid. It is also possible that Tryptamines may occur in the plant. The traditional method for preparing Kanna has only recently been discovered and described in detail. The plant material – which should be collected in October, when the plant is at its most potent – is harvested, crushed between two rocks, and allowed to ferment for a 7 days in a closed container. At one time, animal skins or hemp bags were used for this purpose, but sterilised Mason jars are now used in their place. The first step entails setting the jar filled with the plant material in the sun. During the day, the plant will excrete its juices, which condense on the glass and are later reabsorbed into the plant material. During the night, the material cools. This process is repeated for 2 days. On the last day of this stage of the process the jar is opened before the plant’s juices are reabsorbed, and the contents are stirred well. Then the jar is then resealed and placed outside again for another 5 days. On the eighth day the Kanna is taken from the jar and spread out on a tray to dry in the Sun. It can be used as soon as it is dry. Finally, the Kanna is chopped or ground into a fine powder. According to informants, the fresh leaves do not have any potency; only the fermented plant is psychoactive. This process presumably helps to substantially reduce the high content of Oxalic acid that is characteristic of the genera Sceletium and Mesembryanthemum. Oxalic acid can produce severe irritation and allergies. A more hurried preparation method involves simply toasting a fresh plant on glowing charcoals until it has completely dried and then grinding the plant material into powder form. The powder is usually taken orally, combined with a small amount of alcohol, and held in the mouth for about ten minutes. The saliva that collects during this time can be swallowed. Two grams of the powder produces a sense of serene calm in about thirty minutes; approximately five grams of the powder is a dosage sufficient to relieve acute anxiety. Users of Kanna describe the significant effects of small doses as relieving anxiety and stress, deepening their sense of social connection, an increase in self-confidence, and a dissolution of inhibitions and feelings of inferiority. Higher doses can lead to more intense effects such as euphoria and hallucinations. The chopped plant material can be smoked alone or in combination with Cannabis. The finely ground powder can be also be sniffed, either alone or mixed with tobacco. Higher dosage levels, especially when combined with Cannabis and alcohol can produce hallucinations and enhanced visual acuity. Chewing Kanna shortly after smoking Cannabis can considerably potentiate the effects of both plants. Kanna suppresses both the effects of tobacco and the craving for nicotine. Some other reports confirm that Kanna induces feelings of euphoria and deep meditative tranquility. Subjects report that the relaxation induced by Kanna enables one to focus on inner thoughts and feelings, and enables one to concentrate on the beauty of nature. Some subjects describe elevated sensations of the skin to fine touch, as well as increased sexual arousal. Any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.  Love & Light  ∞

I know this post is a bit old but I’m seeking dosage information from someone who has personally used this plant for its medicinal qualities. I have a 4yo Erythrina vespertilio grown from seed that’s appears to be ready for its first harvest. I’m looking specifically for information for the concoction of a tea with sleep inducing qualities. There is limited information available online so any assistance would be greatly appreciated. If you know of any other uses/teks I’d love to know more. Thanks in advance. Love & Light ♾

Good news. I’ve found someone who has approx 5x seedlings available. They’re about 35cm - 50cm tall and look very healthy and I believe generously priced at less than $20 each. Considering how difficult these are to grow I think it’s a real bargain. They also had some Hoop Pine too. Apart from that I’m planing on doing an expedition to the Bunya Mountains in February 2020 seeking out propagation material, some mature plants plus doing some other work. If you’d like me to collect some specimens for your personal garden, please send me a message or post on here and I’ll do my best.

That sucks man. I believe this plant may be geo locked to its location/altitude and would be difficult if not impossible to grow from seed outside of its native homeland. Another theory is the soil needs to be inoculated with another plant species similar to how acacias work. Has as anyone ever grown this plant from seed in Australia? Or anywhere else in the world. And if so any tricks or tips that you’d like to share. I agree. Once someone gets this going it would be a lovely plant to own and care for. Mysteriously beautiful and a lot of legends behind it that are closely guarded.

I may be able to assist. How many seeds are you after?

Welcome. I greet you in the Love and Light. I currently have for sale some Sceletium tortuosum (Kanna) plants in A+ condition. PRICES - 1 x plant for $20 - 3 x plants for $40 - 5 x plants for $60 - 10x plants for $100 Plus a flat fee of $10 for parcel postage with tracking number anywhere in Australia. Payments can be made via PayPal or in cash. Free pick up is also available from Brisbane. Interesting cash free trades and swaps also considered. GENERAL NOTES - Sceletium tortuosum is a member of the Aizoaceae family and is native to South Africa. - The genus contains 8 species. - Sceletium tortuosum was one of the species used to prepare ‘Kanna’, which was utilised by the Khoi tribes and San tribes of Africa as a stimulant, hypnotic and as a sedative. - Kanna was highly valued by tribesman and they believed it aided them to travel long distances with neither food nor water. - The traditional method of preparation was to use the whole plant and crushed it between two flat rocks before fermenting it for 8 days in animal skins. - It was then removed and dried in the sun for use. - Kanna can be chewed, smoked, Insufflated, made into a tincture or used in a tea. - Contains mesembrine, mesembrenone, mesembrenol, tortuosamine and others alkaloids. - It has been reported that the stems and roots contain up to 30% more active ingredients than the leaves. - Concentrations range from 0.05 - 2.3% in the dry product, with mesembrine being the major alkaloid. CARE & CULTIVATION - Sceletium tortuosum likes a well drained mix in full sun to part shade. - Makes an excellent ground cover. - Actively grows in colder and wetter winter times - Becomes dormant with increasing heat, at which time watering should be slowed down and stopped in the hottest part of the year. - Fertilise well when actively growing with SeaSol, worm tea or similar organic products. MODERN PREPARATION METHOD Step 1: Gather whole plant material including leaves, stems and root. Wash thoroughly. Step 2: Using a large granite mortar and pestle, crush the material thoroughly. Step 3: Place the crushed material into a sterilised glass Mason jar. Step 4: Place in direct full sun for 8 days until fermentation is complete. Be sure to shake the jar daily then open the jar to release any gas build up. Step 5: Lay the material into a flat glass baking tray and allow it to completely dry in the sun for between 3-5 days. Alternatively you can finish this process in the oven at 100°C for approx 3-4 hours. Step 6: Grind the Kanna in a coffee grinder. For smoking, a rough grind is best. For making a snuff, a super fine grind will be required. For chewing or use in tea, leave it unpowdered. Any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.  Love & Light  ∞

Hi Kangaroo Vindaloo (cool name), Yes I’ve got some very healthy and large Kanna plants looking for a new home. They’re flowering at the moment as well. Very pretty. Just send me a private message and let me know how many you’re after etc and I’ll get onto it for you. Same with anyone else reading this who’s seeking the same. Love & Light ♾

The botanical gardens often give me a whole beehive looking cone around January - February. Next time I get some propagation material I'll be in touch and repost on here as well. Happy to send some over to NZ and to anyone else interested. It wouldn't hurt to get Professor Bunya Nut involved with his interesting tek and any other research findings he'd care to share.

Welcome! I greet you in the Love and Light. I just wanted to share an idea I had regarding a Vanilla Trellis. Recently I was lucky enough to be gifted a Vanilla planifolia and needed to come up with something clever so I could successfully grow it in the shade, under my pergola, up-cycling only what I had laying around. I re-used some discarded gutter guard, stuffed it with moist Sphagnum Moss and attached it to one of the timber posts using cable fasteners. I then secured the vine using trellis pegs. I'm really happy with the results and it looks really neat and tidy. I have no doubt the vanilla plant will extend its aerial roots into the moist Sphagnum Moss and grow like mad. I'm also experimenting with a cylindrical variation to cover up an ugly downpipe and will post the results soon. Below are a few pictures. Love & Light ∞

Welcome. I greet you in the Love & Light. It's with great pleasure that we announce a Special SAB Camp being held in Nimbin, NSW. Please see the attached invitation: A Small Ethnobotanical Gathering Under The Stars Queen's Birthday Long Weekend (Qld) Friday 4 October 2019 - Monday 7 October 2019 Nimbin Crystal Tourist Park 29 Sibley Street, Nimbin NSW 2480 Camping: Adults $17pn & Children $5pn | 3-4 Person Camper Vans: $75pn SAB Members, Their Partners, Children and Pets Are All Welcome Camping | Bonfires | Corroboree | BBQs | Bush Walks | Swimming | Activities *** Please note that RSVP registration is required *** The purpose of this event is to bring together old and new SAB members in a relaxed environment to share knowledge of sacred plants and spend quality time together. Our old friend AndyAmine organised similar events and I think it will be a fitting tribute to get these going again on a regular basis. It's going to be a fantastic weekend and I really look forward to welcoming everyone. If you have any questions or would like to RSVP, please don't hesitate to get in touch. Look forward to seeing you there. Love & Light ∞

Just a quick reminder that the SAB Nimbin 2019 Meet Up is on this weekend. Brilliant weather conditions are expected so don't forget to pack your swimmers. Feel free to get in touch if you have any questions. Look forward to joining everyone for a magical weekend. Love & Light ∞

Also I forgot to mention to bring your musical instruments along for a bit of jam session as well. FerdieJ - No dramas. All the best with the move. The next one Is earmarked for March 2020 so hopefully we’ll catch you at that one. Pedro99 - Yes you can either camp (powered/unpowered) in a tent or sleep in your car or walk in. The first 2 will cost money and walk ins I’m pretty sure they won’t charge you if you aren’t staying the night. There are excellent facilities including toilets, showers and BBQ facilities and it’s a 5 min walk into the Main Street. There’s also a skate park, basketball court and bowls club next door. Humbolt - no worries mate. The kids and the adults will probably be in the pool the whole time especially if it’s hot and humid. It’s the biggest pool I’ve ever see and it’s free too. Hope to catch you at either this or the next one. If if there are any other questions, feel free to post them on here as others probably will have the same questions. Thanks again for the the kind words and support in getting this initiative off the ground. Love & Light ∞

Noshiewa any luck with the previous poster?

Here is the link to the post: MEET UP - Special SAB Camp - Nimbin 2019 - All Welcome http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?/topic/46570-meet-up-special-sab-camp-nimbin-2019-all-welcome/ Love & Light ∞

Hi Acacia, Pretty much what every one else has said. It looks like a hydration issue to me which is very unusual for this plant as it is drought tolerant. Have you re-potted it lately or done something to the soil? Perhaps the mix is too quick draining. If you soak the pot in a bucket with water and SeaSol for a couple of hours it should bounce back. They have a stunning root system. Once they are in the ground they take care of themselves. I hope that helps. If the plant doesn't make it let me know. Happy to send you some seeds or cuttings so you can have another crack.

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Welcome. I greet you in the Love and Light. I’m giving away free seed packs of Datura stramonium (approx 10x seeds). The first 5x people to post on here will be the lucky recipients. Please send me a PM with the details of where you would like it posted. For incense use only. Love & Light ∞

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We extend a warm welcome to the Sunny Coast crew. It will be great to finally meet everyone. Send me a message if you need help with directions.

I’m interested.

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Welcome. I greet you in the Love and in the Light.  I’m giving away free seed packs of Leonotis nepetifolia - Lion’s Ear - 10 fresh seeds. The first 5x people to post on here will be the lucky recipients. Please also send me a PM with where you would like it posted. Have a great weekend.  Love & Light ♾