A couple of Acacia IDs

[A couple of Acacia IDs]

1 hour ago, withdrawl clinic said:

I am pretty sure, that acacia cuttings are close to impossible to produce, so forget that...

maybe some super cool tissue culture specialist managed, but it's not for us.

 

and why do you start, by random sorting trees, research what others have found out first.

Thanks for letting me know! I just assumed it wouldn't be that difficult, so you've saved me a lot of time, and of course, removing plant material in the future.

Still curious about the IDs of those acacias so I can better familiarise myself with them.

[A couple of Acacia IDs]

1 hour ago, Wile E. Peyote said:

Hi Rock.0, 

 

While removing phyllodes is generally less harmful than bark stripping, searching for plant material that has been removed from Acacias without your intervention would be a more sustainable harvesting technique than removing living plant material from the trees yourself, as you seem to have done in these photos. 

Thank you for the reminder, it's been a long whie since I've been searching for acacias, I just didn't think.

And to be completely clear, I am not planning on harvesting from wild trees, I may however take cuttings for propagation, but I'm hoping to learn more about IDing as I go.

 

 

54 minutes ago, withdrawl clinic said:

I leave the id'ing to the acacia specialist, but one thing I can tell you for certain.

acacias come general in two flower types, cylindrical and spherical, and so far without exception,

all alkaloid acacias where displaying cylindrical flowers.

 

don't waste your time on spherical flowers as you posted pics of.

this trick, I was told by torsten!

Mate that is very useful to know, thanks for passing that on. Such a quick and easy thing to look for.

Acacia Floribunda definitely has cylindrical flowering patterns (spikes), which are present on Sample 1 and 2.

I have also heard that supposedly there are different floribunda varieties, some of which yield DMT, some do not.

[A couple of Acacia IDs]

Hi there,

I've long been on the hunt for alkaloid producing acacias in my area (SE Melbourne), particularly something that could be sustainably harvested, i.e. from phyllodes.

So I've got a few samples I'd love IDs on please

 

(sorry for pic orientation - not sure how to correct this)

Sample 1: 19/06/2020 - I think this is a Floribunda but would love confirmation.

 

Sample 2: 21/06/2020 - Pretty sure this is also Floribunda

 

Sample 3: 21/06/2020 - This one looks quite different, note the quite pronounced reddish colour of the stems

 

Sample 4: 21/06/2020 - Also quite different, the branches seemed to be quite elongated and droop down towards the ground; phyllodes protrude perpendicular to the stem

 

[Can anyone ID this plant please?]

Close enough for me, thanks

[Can anyone ID this plant please?]

Cool I'll look into that, thank you

[Can anyone ID this plant please?]

Hi Shamans, just hoping to get an ID on this plant. I saw it in an office and just love the petiteness of it. Any help would be most appreciated.

 

Thanks

P.S. Dunno why it's rotated like that, sorry.

[Climate Effect on Acacia Floribunda Alkaloids]

Thanks Moose and Glaukus for your insights, you have confirmed what I have read about Acacias more generally. Time unfortunately isn't something I have an abundance of, but I'll gather up a small quantity of trimmings anyway and hopefully get around to working with them at some stage. 

[Climate Effect on Acacia Floribunda Alkaloids]

Hey shamans. Someone I know has recently pruned their Acacia Floribunda, leaving quite a decent sized stack of branches full of phyllodes. I'm wondering with the very heavy rain recently, the phyllodes would currently contain active ingredients? The reason I'm asking is based on my very limited knowledge, that alkaloid content dramatically decreases following periods of rain and colder weather temperatures. Can anyone confirm this? 

Thanks 

[Acacia ID Help]

Nice, that looks like a very close match to me. Thank you

[Acacia ID Help]

Any ideas at all?

[Acacia ID Help]

Could anyone please help ID this acacia?

I thought I was dealing with a Floribunda, but it looks slightly different. It has similar sized phyllodes but this species has a rounded tip, as opposed to a pointy tip that Floribunda has. It also appears to have very small glands, which I'm tlkd Floribundas do not have. I've done a Google image search but didn't have any luck. The closest match I found was A. Fimbriata, but it's not exact, and from what I read, Fimbriata grows up North.

 

Located in a creekland in the Eastern suburbs of Melb.

Thanks.

[subaeruginosa phenotypes that were DNA tested and the results]

Thats awesome, very cool info. And how are you finding subs this early in the year, with such high temps and low rainfall? 

[A couple of Acacia ID Requests]

10 minutes ago, TheMooseZeus said:

Looks like Melanoxylon, to me, I love the way the fruit attaches to the seed pod

The fruit being the fleshy pink ring around the seed?

[A couple of Acacia ID Requests]

Hi there,

Just went out for a walk and snapped a few pics of acacias. These are grouped into three separate samples. I suspect they are either A. Longifolia or A. Melanoxylon. 

Locatio: Eastern Melbourne creeklands.

 

Thanks

P.S Sorry for the sideways photos, not sure how to fix that.

Sample 1:

 

Sample 2:

Sample 3:

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1 hour ago, TheMooseZeus said:

The incredible thing about floribunda is that the Phyllodes are what one would be after so its very sustainable.

Wow, this tree just keeps on getting better. I just went for my morning dog walk through some creeklands and ID'd quite a number of very young Floribundas, including one that had been damaged somehow, so I might head back there and scavenge whatever I can.  Also a couple of other species that I photographed (See this thread)

1 hour ago, TheMooseZeus said:

Due to the hard case on the acacia seeds, they need smoke/ fire to germinate naturally. The way people go about it is by pouring near boiling water over them or sanding down one side with sand paper. This allows water to get in. So spreading the seeds around won't have too much effect in your garden unless it regularly catches on fire.

Good to know 

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Thank you for the info Moose. I've seen tonnes of Dealbata in my area, though AFAIK they are not active.

 

I did an Ehrlich test on the phyllodes of my flori and it came back negative. I'll attempt with some branches and branchlets.

 

If one was to attempt extraction on this species, are you aware of which part of the plant would have the highest yield, and how to harvest it sustainably/minimising damage?

 

I'll see if I can find some seeds, not sure what time of year they come out though.

[ID Request: What species of Acacia is this?]

52 minutes ago, TheMooseZeus said:

The lack of glands on the phyllodes is a give away!

Interesting that it's beginning to bud though 

I recommend you collect as many seeds as you can from this one! Also, seeds would help a bit in ID.ing 

I've seen flori in the wild with super thin phyllodes maybe 3x smaller than what i've seen online. Variation kills me, i've spent far too long staring at longifolia in my area. More often than not I find something worth investigating when i'm further away from home. Its nice getting familiar with what you aren't looking for i suppose (Super jealous hahaha)

 

 

Sorry what do you mean by glands? What does this indicate?

And seeds...is it advisable to harvest them for spreading them in the wild?

 

I'm as uninformed as they come when it comes to botany (though I'm keen on learning), I still need to look up how to spell phyllodes correctly. I know the fact that dumb luck has it that I have had this thing in my backyard for 3 decades, and the day I discovered Acacias were active was the day I realised it was even there must bust frustrating as hell 

 

 

 

[ID Request: What species of Acacia is this?]

11 minutes ago, TheMooseZeus said:

I've never tried this but i have seen people ask before and the general consensus was no, it sadly wouldn't.

Detailed pictures might help a little better with a ruler for scale but theres probably enough variation in the species for it not to help a whole lot

Have a look at this:

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Acacia~floribunda

If it matches the description you should feel pretty confident. Flowering times help a lot too. 

 

Thanks for the link, it looks pretty damn close! 

 

Interesting that the Ehrlich test may not work, I've used it for dried fungi before and it takes a while longer than extracted material, but it works. I'll give it a crack with a few different samples and see what happens.

Here are a few more pics I just took, it is not flowering at the moment

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6 hours ago, TheMooseZeus said:

I know an easy test ;) 

I've actually got an Ehrlich reagent test stashed away from about a year ago, would testing the raw plant matter show up?

 

6 hours ago, TheMooseZeus said:

The way the tree hangs is a lot like floribunda. I have a lot of trouble ID.ing longiflora due to varitation

 

EDIT: I'd be way more inclined to go with Floribunda over longi, Longi tend to hang with much denser flowers  

Thank you Moose, would more detailed photos help? Phyllode measurements etc?

[ID Request: What species of Acacia is this?]

29 minutes ago, Dicko said:

Acacia floribunda perhaps? Not real up to scratch with ID's tho

I've been told before it could be floribunda or longifolia but haven't had any confirmations

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29 minutes ago, TheMooseZeus said:

Were these photos taken recently?

No, I've had them sitting on my phone for a while. Taken about October 2015 (Spring)

[ID Request: What species of Acacia is this?]

Hi everyone,

I'm hoping someone can help ID this wonderful acacia that has been growing in my backyard for about 30 years. Hope these pics are sufficient, please let me know if there are any other details you'd like me to photograph.

Location is Eastern Melbourne.

 

Thanks.

 

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Hey everyone,

Sorry for digging up an old thread.

I've only colonised a few pieces of cardboard (last season in Melb) and buried them in the garden under some woodchips in ~late August. I've seen a bit of colonised woodchip in that patch, so that's a good sign. I'm just wondering what sort of timeline were talking for each step here? And is there an ideal time of year/season for each step?

Also when colonising a piece of cardboard, is it best to keep it in a sealed container or open? And indoors or outdoors?

Thanks!