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    vaporising temp.

    Gramine mp 139 C, bp high. Bufotenine mp 147 C, bp 320 C under hard vacuum.
  2. "there is no such thing as amyl nitrate"- Torsten Actually there is such a thing, its a dangerous explosive (related to 'nitroglycerin' [both are low weight esters of nitric acid] but its not nearly as sensitive) And its very toxic. "Can't say I ever accidentally got a chili in my undies, so won't comment on that"- Torsten I have (accidentally)! It killed the mood worse then when I got sulfuric acid in my undies (very small amount [contaminated thumbprint], no permanent damage, but VERY annoying!!! The price chemists pay for wisdom I guess! Dont try it at home, or at work for that matter.)
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    Singapore cracks down on poppy bagels

    Oh yeah, that makes sense! I'm sure lots of people eat 50 kg of poppy seed bagles just to get stoned! Or maby they are worried that people are buying $1000 worth of bagles in order to make $5 worth of heroin! And I thought that the USA was the only country that elects the intelectually vacant. I guess I shoulda known better, every time I try to have faith in human logic and wisdom politicians across the world make it a point to prove me wrong Oh well, maby in another 1000 years the world will be able to breed a politician that can do simple math and spell the word potato properly- Too bad I wont live to see it!
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    Need help with GC/MS specs

    "Also, as you pointed out you'll need analytical standards. yes, but only if I want to do quantitative analysis."- Torsten Ooooohhhhh NO! You got it backwards, you can easily determine the concentration of every component without A. standards (concentration is proportional to area of squigle. [area of single squigle divided by total area of all squigles times 100 = % concentration.]) You need the standards to IDENTIFY each component. These machines dont analize the structure of the components, they just give you a bunch of squiggly lines based on polarity, size, and concentration. The standards are used for comparison. If the squigle on a yohimbine standard matches one of the squigles on a extract, that shows that the extract has yohimbine. You cannot identify the structure of an unknown without doing a run (in identical solvent, temp, etc.) with a standard containing that compound. If its an unknown that you dont have a standard for you will never be able to determine its structure with GC (thats what IR spectrometers and various NMR scans are for, but the unknown must be isolated in pure form from the origional extract to do the tests, and youll never be able to buy a good NMR they are VERY VERY VERY expensive and dangerous [if you have a surgical pin in your back it can pull it out through your chest!!! Metal in the walls? Your lab IMPLODES!] IR specs on the other hand are very cool, and not TOO expensive.)
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    Need help with GC/MS specs

    If you plan to put crude plant extracts through a GC it will get really expensive, each new column costs about 500 USD and any simple plant extract made with alcohol, ether, or what have you will burn out a column in one use due to all the resins, gums, tars, chlorophyll, etc. So for each test you'll have to do extensive purification in order to spare your columns. (The authorities might mistake this for illicit drug manufacture if they find out.) Also, as you pointed out you'll need analytical standards. Getting all the permits for DMT, mescaline, etc. standards is very hard and very expensive. The standards themselves are also expensive. I sure hope you know what your doing, I'd hate to see SAB go bankrupt. Aren't there analytical chem labs in Australia that will do your analysis for you (for a not too obscene fee)? That may be cheaper and FAR easier.
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    How addictive is OPIUM?

    "The difference between a medicine and a drug is purely one of dosage"- Adrian DOSAGE? Dont you mean intent? I've seen this thing on a number of occations, for example I once observed a 'stoner' and a AIDS patient together smoking pot. To the AIDS patient it was medicine that allowed him to keep down food, to the 'stoner' it was to have fun (ie. drug). The AIDS patient smoked one gram, and the 'stoner' smoked one gram. They were both about the same weight, and they both consumed their pot at the same rate, so it was the same dose but different intent that made one a medicine and the other a recreational drug. [This message has been edited by Auxin (edited 18 July 2002).]
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    Sinicuiche - Heimea salicifolia

    Hey ed, if you try it with just stems dont forget to report your findings. Quantitative data would be useful too (How many grams of stems, how much water, length of extraction, ambient temp, etc.) Good luck.
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    How addictive is OPIUM?

    Will opium addiction lead to smack? That depends. If heroin is unobtainable to you odviously not, but I'll assume it is obtainable. Heroin is just a much faster method of morphine administration, because by the time the heroin gets to the receptors it is converted to (or simply acts just like) morphine. If you get addicted to opium, you are addicted to morphine. As the addiction progresses you'll need more of the drug, and you'll need it more often quickly going past the amount that you could produce for yourself. If at this point you tried heroin it would satisfy the addiction far better than opium would, so you would swich to heroin and very soon your opium addiction would change to heroin addiction and you would probably become a junkie! My advice- Dont live the rest of your life in chains (addiction) or in a quickly fading fog of false contentment because thats when the end of your life starts. Sure 'lifes a bitch and then you die' but it is foolish to willingly make it far worse just for a temporary delusion of pleasure or escape.
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    Poo-sniffing in Malaysia

    "Death to the oppressors!"- gomaos Funny, most oppressors say the same thing. What about justice, freedom, and all that? Violence breeds violence. Therefore defeat oppression with compassion. War won through brutality does not bring peace. But war ended through justice and compassion can bring peace. Its just one of those things.
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    Poo-sniffing in Malaysia

    Anyone here gonna give it a try? If you survive the experience dont forget to report your findings. But please DO NOT try the polystyrene smoke thing, thats WAY TO DANGEROUS.
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    Sinicuiche - Heimea salicifolia

    "my understanding was that a tea was left for days in the sun."- theobromos Usually it is only left in a sunny spot for 24 hrs, which is scantly enough time for it to start fermenting, much less ferment very far. I dont have my references on this handy right now, but I'll post 'em when I have time to track them down. But anyway this type of enzymatic/oxidative/photolytic/combinitorial processing is well known in other plant products (like black and oolong teas for instance) and has major impact on the final product. Some fermentation may well occur on occation, but from what I have heard this is not as essential as the other proceses, if at all. It also explains why it's almost required that the plant material is fresh, you need those sensative enzymes, polyphenols, etc. there for the stuff to 'cure' properly. This also helps explain why some dried leaves have no effect, and others have some effect. If the leaves are unbruised and flash dried the curing does not occur and the product has almost no effect, while if the leaves are bruised (thus allowing the reactions) and sun dried (ie slower and cooler) they have time to partially cure, and thus produce some effects. In any case more research needs to be done. Anyone with plants, research away (I still havent got the smeggin' things to grow, so my hands-on research on this is being delayed.)
  12. "Alc is like 20% fun, and 80% side effects."- goamos It was like that when I was 15, by the time I was 19 the effects had changed to 2% fun, 98% side effects so I quit. Now (22) it just feels like liquid death, so I aint ever gonna start drinking again. I guess this would make me one of the lucky ones!?! Its a good thing I lost the taste for the stuff before getting addicted. My grandpa was so addicted that he took antabuse with whiskey just to get a extra buzz! Needless to say, his body got so screwed by alc that he had to be hooked to machines in order to live one last decade, thats no way to go out.
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    watch out mushroom collectors near perth

    bluemeanie, in stead of saying all that just say "I want a lawyer" the lawyer can then take care of all of that other stuff without incriminating you further. Anything you say to cops in a situation like that WILL be used against you, so "gimme a lawyer" is usually enough.
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    Sinicuiche - Heimea salicifolia

    "If cryogenine (an alkaloid) is the main active part in Heimia, then maybe simple acid/base extraction is the way to go?"- Caldeye Yup, I have yet to find the complete structure for vertine ("cryogenine") and the other alkaloids in heimia but what I have found suggests that they are chloroform soluable in the freebase form and water soluable in the salt form, just what you want for A/B ext. If you try it let us know how it works, and remember to be CAREFUL with pure alkaloids as they can easily be overdosed on. And keep/publish detailed notes with lots of numbers for the benefit of all. "Traditional sinicuiche drinks are usually fermented in the sun."- Caldeye Nope, its not actually fermentation. Its a mixture of oxidative, enzymatic, photolytic, and combinatorial chemical reactions, but yeast is not involved. And yes, if you plan to do A/B extraction you should do this traditional sun-extraction method to start with and work from there.
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    MAOI diet.......PLEASE HELP ME!!!

    Torsten, How strong is the synergy effect with syrian rue + S. divinorum or S. splendens? Usually I am told that the effect is either a placebo or a internet hoax. [This message has been edited by Auxin (edited 30 June 2002).]
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    MAOI diet.......PLEASE HELP ME!!!

    Interesting theory Torsten, that could very well be the case if there is infact potentiation. But heres another possibility for ya: Maby the cannabis is potentiating the beta carbolines. It has happened with certain strains of cannabis + LSD, sometimes its a VERY strong effect I'm told. Lacking high dollar scientific research the difference between rue boostin' THC and vice versa could be qualitatively estimated by a well experienced tripper. Another test would be to use a totally non-entheogenic MAO-A inhibitor with cannabis and look for potentiation. I'd do the experiments myself if it werent illegal over here, is there a experienced Hollander in the house?
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    Sinicuiche - Heimea salicifolia

    HERES THE DEAL... If bitter brews make you heave all you have to do is build up your bitterness tolerance. I have found that scantly sweetened fresh horehound leaf tea is good for this. Start with small sips and work your way up. Get used to strong unsweetened horehound tea and you can drink just about anything! Another method is to meditate on physical detatchment and tolerance, but that doesn't work with everyone.
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    MAOI diet.......PLEASE HELP ME!!!

    "auxin,i thought s rue and cannabis was a classic combo"- tst Sure you can combine them and it would alter the effect, but this would be due to the independant effects of the two. Syrian rue only POTENTIATES amines (of course it is possible that cannabis contains an amine normally inactive, but made active by beta carbolines. If so this would be an interesting research project where legal.)
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    bacteria in mushrooms

    Waterdragon: I didnt say that what you said was bad, I just didn't want to be accused of more than my share. I know you didnt mean any offense. Anyone: Back me up, Please. Maby I'm socially blind, maby its that culture barrier thing, but I really dont think I said anything that inflamatory. But I do know when I'm beaten (and way off topic) so I'll stay quiet on this topic for a while. And we are a bit off topic, perhaps this could be continued in the chill space under the heading 'Veronica dont go!' I'll probably still be beaten, but at least I'll be on topic. Again, someone please back me up or at least tell me what was so bad that it would prompt such agression. Its not like I meant to scare someone off.
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    bacteria in mushrooms

    "Veronica, don't stop posting because of Auxin."- theobromos Hey, dont blame it all on me. The comment that seemed to push her over the edge was made by waterdragon, and she said it was not because of any single comment by any single person that put her off, but rather a trend of people jumping on every one of her posts. Also, as far as me frequently bein' wrong goes- everyone is frequently wrong, what matters is that I try my damndest to be right most of the time for the benefit of others. ( Funny thing is, when people say I am wrong half the time they are talkin' about one of my opinions, not one of my facts. I am of the sort that thinks opinions are never wrong, as long as they are stated as opinions. ) Veronica, incase your reading this I really didn't mean any offence. Sorry if it seemed otherwise. I dont think anyone here meant any real offence, and I really dont think anyone meant to push you out.
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    Mescaline + Syrian Rue

    Recrystalization would boost the purity of some, but loss would be signifigant and if you tried to recover some of the loss then that fraction would end up bein even less pure. And still recrystalization would not get it pure. Remember your trying to remove compounds very similar to the target compound, whats best for that is column chromotography. If your wealthy, jobless, patient, and somewhere where its legal you should do that instead.
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    MAOI diet.......PLEASE HELP ME!!!

    "What happens if I eat heaps of MAOI foods before, during and after while on taking Entheogen plants??"- Warped Astro You only need to do the MAOI diet if syrian rue or B. cappi are involved (they contain the MAOIs in question.) No special diet for just peyote, mushrooms, etc. If you do take syrian rue while ignoring the diet there is allot of stuff that can go wrong including hypertensive crisis (way high blood pressure), dizziness, vomiting, and death in the most extreme cases. "Is avoiding MAOI foods is designed to increase or decrease entheogen plants's effects??" The diet just keeps you out of the hospital, ingesting syrian rue does increase and alter the experience. Traditionally it is mainly only done with DMT containing plants. Other combos have been experimented with but some of them are questionable or dangerous and some are just plain funny (syrian rue does not boost compounds lacking amines, so combining it with salvia or cannabis is a waste.) Take my advice: before taking syrian rue or B. cappi with anything (or by themselves) do lots of research and read all the info out there, it really is important.
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    Mescaline + Syrian Rue

    "This website has instructions how to extract pure mescaline: http://peyote.com/jonstef/peyote.htm#Anchor3 "- WarpedAstro That process does not make pure mescaline, its a (dangerous) alkaloid extraction that only removes SOME of the non-mescaline alkaloids. Also, avoid any instructions involving benzene (toluene can be used instead, benzene is just too damned toxic.)
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    bacteria in mushrooms

    "I dont need a lecture on what I write." I didn't mean to give a lecture, I guess my light-hearted talk is very different than most peoples! Its probably that opinionated thing- you were probably right about that. If it ever sounds like I'm preaching (or angry), try to remember that I don't mean it that way! I just have an almost unlimited thirst for accurate scientific data- speculation and generalization makes my head hurt but pure factual data puts me into a state of deep spiritual ecstasy. Thats just the way I am. Freaky? Yes Painful? Yes Inconvenient? Yes True? Yes, so what can I do.
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    Mescaline + Syrian Rue

    "Does anyone know which extraction would give relatively pure mescaline?" That depends on your definition of relatively. If you mean that the product would be a mixture of 85%+ various alkaloids then most methods would work. If you mean which method would give you a product that is 90% mescaline or better, then none of them! I have never seen a procedure on the internet that removes the majority of other alkaloids, but thats OK because such procedures are usually beyond the ability of non-chemists (too much lab work, too much costly materials, not to mention the environmental impact of improper disposal of waste) A few chemists have done it way back in the olden days but nowadays if a chemist wants pure mescaline he synthesizes it- it is a simple compound. Of course they can also buy it legally from Sigma - pure synthetic mescaline hydrochloride 0.100g for $23.65 USD, its just too bad you need the DEAs OK to buy it.
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