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Its been a while..... a long while and the world went all topsy turvey,. I hope you are all well, and your lives have been nice and calm. big hugs to all in this weird time <3

Here it is, people. Big FAT full-grown MOTHER PLANT examples of different clones! Over the coming days and weeks I'll be gathering up as many pics of our finest Trichocereus mother plants. So feel free to add to this as much as possible. From what I've noticed there are very few large established plants that are still in good condition now-a-days, as most are getting ransacked for cuts. A lot of people have never even had the joy of seeing a 30 year old trich in the flesh, so Here's a collection of our finest tricho examples from Australia (and all around the world) . Hopefully the glory days of these massive Trichos will return someday, but for the next few years I think the best we will have is our photo archive. So once again, please add to this as much as possible. Pics can be of any named clone, as long as they are either original motherplants or mature plants of say 10 years old or more. Any publicly available pic can be posted (preferably with credits), but if you're not happy with me using one of your pics then let me know and I'll remove it. Anyway please enjoy this random collection of our finest trichocereus mother-plants

I wouldn't get too hyped out. There's always a lot of crazy shit going on on the internet. People say the media pushes fear but its more like the internet nut-jobs that are pushing fear, so don't buy into it. Government institutions taking caution is not pushing fear either, it's actually what you'd WANT them to do. And just remember the whole bird-flu thing. Some people went stark raving mad over all the conspiracies and fear-mongering, and then it all just ran it's course without causing the world to end. Just take sensible precautions and you'll be safer than what you'd usually be. Just look at how cases of the flu has dropped this year thanks to social distancing measures. Once a vaccine comes ut and most of the population gets it, the virus will be stopped in it's tracks so you may be able to avoid the vaccine if you really object to it. People only take vaccines because it's the lesser of two evils. No one really WANTS to inject some foreign substance into their body, but if it stops them from dying they'll begrudgingly acquiesce. As for gold. it's already on a run, but remember, any (or all) major governments who want to rescue their economies could at any time dump their gold reserves on the market, crashing it's value. So you wouldn't want to be stuck with it in your hands when the ship goes down.Also if there's a war, Governments can make Gold bullion illegal to own as it gets classified as a strategic resource, and you MUST sell it to the government in return for their 'worthless' paper money. You'd wanna hope your side wins because the losing side just ends up with hyper-inflation and piles of worthless paper notes. Doomsday prepping is a good idea, but I don't think the virus is our biggest concern. -War is.

Here’s a song I wrote on a throwaway account that I thought was kinda cool Wisdom salutes those victorious in the ways of old for all time and being Insisting I change could be succumb to emotional states passing by Returning from zero point ok but not friendly The be all and end all is lying on my front porch dazed and confused

Eileen from the OG grower reshroomeED

Rita (by Olive)

SASSY and Riverland Terscheckii (by distracted)

The fear being created over a vaccine that is not even released is coming from a minority but they game the system and too many are allowing their shit to take space in their heads.... Like a vampire they let them in the door. Honestly, I don't reckon there will be a effective vaccine with a sustained response.... But that's a side issue. But as also a fella with immunofuckedness, if they do produce an effective one I'll get it, like all the others.. Vaccine hysteria has gone beyond chucklin at.

Hi SAB Folks Due to the success of the first online SAB Lockdown Plant Meet, we have decided to set up a second instalment and broadened the invite list beyond the victorian thread. Zoom allowed us to do garden tours from those that wish to do so or just observe. The gardens tour were the unforeseen highlight of the meet that just developed organically making the day special. So, if you wish to attend the next instalment on Sunday the 27 September from 2 pm then post in this thread or PM me and I'll touch base with the details before the event. You can drop in and out of the meeting as you please on the day. For privacy reasons, only active contributors to this forum will be admitted. Thanks to all that made the first instalment. Video is not participation compulsory, Costumes an face-covering and Drinks welcome See you when we see you

South Australian Short Spine (SASS or SASSY) by distracted

Hmm, finding all those old pics has proven a little harder than I thought, so I'll definitely need others to chip in with this. Anyway, I'll kick it off with a couple and add to it again soon. First up we have the lovely 'Bruce' in all his glory ( I know there's more awesome pics of Bruce kicking around somewhere), but Bruce was an absolute sensation when it hit the scene, and it's easy to see why. Photo by black dragon

Unfortunately large groups of people need to be managed and that comes at a cost of individual freedom. Imagine a small village with a single well, it would be nice if it could manage without any regulation around the use of that well, unfortunately some people either don't understand of don't care that taking a shit in that well will negatively effect everyone else that needs that that well for their clean water. Authoritarian creep is a real issue and balance need to be found but that doesn't change that 7 billion humans without any organization will just result in utter chaos and not all measures to manage,organize or regulate them comes from a nefarious intent.

Well we live with the direct legacy of not having to deal with rabies nor anthrax because of Pasteur. Sure killing every single fly, bat and dog on earth would have been more practical, but hey science is just this crazy wild experiment that ignores all evidence and just does what it will. Live attenuated vaccines including those for diphtheria, plague, tuberculosis, yellow fever, rotavirus, measles, mumps, rubella, and more are based on Pasteur's research. The hundreds of millions of people who haven't died nor been crippled by those previously endemic diseases refute any last minute doubts the old boy had before he fell off the perch. In fact the only reason many of these diseases aren't extinct now and we don't need to vaccinate for them at all is because some people for whatever reason refuse treatment. Previously the primary poor reasoning was religion, but commonly it's just naive and ego-central echo chambers now. 300 million people died from smallpox last century, now it's extinct because of effective vaccine strategy and none of us vaccinate against it any longer. Spot the conspiracy. I'm not going to be quick to shoot myself with the latest batch of corona-vaccine, if it ever arrives. Probably spend some time mulling over ridiculous antivax armchair biology for a while, wait to see if it is really effective, then do it.

More to come tomorrow

Cliff

thanks for the words guys if it wasn't for this community I'd be a literal zombie the internet is vast but having a community of this nature literally surrounding me during this shit has me at a loss for words... the more I meditate and play music the muscle memory kicking in and all the rythmic and deep breathing happening almost like riding a bike its almost as if I never stopped. it ain't no thang really just annoying when you have to take a 5 year detour because a reckless facilitator was harbouring a jhin during ceremony lol

Geez dude, sounds pretty rough. Super happy to hear your getting some good help though. Often easier said than done but don't forget to be kind to yourself too. Wishing you all the best.

The reason people here take it so blindly here is we've got it so good. If there was significant hardship civil unrest would develop and it would be much harder to pull off. Not that it wouldn't still happen though, look at the US. For all the screaming about rights and stuff in the US it turns out they really get shafted at every turn. Straight up bribery in the form of "lobbying" holds the whole country in thrall, but at least they can shoot each other with guns and stuff, get the longest prison sentences in the 1st world with the worst incarceration rates. Ya know, because that's what free people do. But they laugh at us while crying constantly over their corrupt medical, corrupt schooling, corrupt policing, corrupt politics, corrupt infrastructure... ironic really. Sure Australia is overreacting to some extent with the policing of covid, but we do that with everything. It's going to take a generational change to phase out these sort of laws before they become truly Draconian. I think it's important to maintain perspective before engaging outrage. Better trade with Europe is the key to our emancipation from the war shackles of the US and the financial shackles of China. The party that gets this right will lead the emancipation of our young nation. I'm unsure how to wean people people off the corporate duopoly that is our political system, but more and more people are becoming aware of it especially the younger generations. As the old voting base dies off new ideas will come the fore. I smell the winds of change, the calm before the storm if you will. Rational people don't see the advantage of oppressing people in a wealthy nation. Oppressed people are not as productive and you can't tax them as much. Bad business really. I'm sure pollies with their personal businesses taking it to the knees can't wait for this whole thing to be over. They want people to spend, spend, spend.

If you have the attention span of a gnat then this isn't definitely isn't for you. So here's the back story about how I came to form my opinions on the state of the world. Feel free to troll me out if you have the attention span to actually read what brought me to my outlandish assessment of current world events and have watched the entire video I've attached if you still feel that I'm a "conspiracy theorist" Mid 1990's Like everyone else I was a normal wage earner working in a metal fab shop/engineering firm and my working conditions were under threat. I was being compelled to enter into Howards' new enterprise bargaining agreements where we were expected to negotiate deals which involved lower wages and reduced levels of working conditions (longer hours and lower pay rates) while we were expected to have higher productivity rates at the same time. The whole country was in turmoil and many companies had worksite shutdowns and strikes, at the same time scab labour was introduced and little Johnny Howard trained Australian soldiers overseas to break the union picket lines by our dock workers. Back in those days men still had balls and the Australian workers rejected the imposition from military forces en masse and presented a serious opposition to Howards' plan so the soldiers never came to break the picket lines. I was the shop steward and I was responsible for the well being and working conditions of up to 200 men on a dangerous worksite where many men had been killed on the job, it was a company employing about 50 permanent staff and casual workers were brought in for bigger jobs. I was young and naive and knew that the ALP and the union movement was in essence a socialist movement and I only ever saw the positive side of union collectivism which had given my fathers' generation a high standard of living so I was all for it but I never really knew what socialism or communism was (we didn't have internet access in those days, so I was as naive as the average TV watching idiot). One lunch time our union rep came into the workshop and told us he needed to call an emergency meeting because of recent developments in the AMWU, so we shut the doors to the crib house and began the meeting. Our union rep started the meeting on a very serious dire note and informed us that there had been a split in the union hierarchy where one side (closely affiliated with the ALP) had openly declared their communist affiliations and the other side had adopted a more liberal perspective and wanted to remain midfield and not affiliate with the openly communist aligned ALP party members. Less than 5 minutes after the lunch break was over our angry boss came in and screamed at us all to get back into the fucking workshop, I pushed him out the door and told him this is a union meeting, so we'll go back to work when the meeting was finished. Then the union rep sat us all down while his offsider wheeled in a TV with a VHS video recorder and played us this vid by Jeremy Lee. As we watched the video presentation we all realised exactly what had been happening to the political landscape and why all our rights were being eroded. I was so disgusted by what I saw (given the context of the situation) that I resigned from the union that day and quit that job about two months later knowing it was a dead end street. I've posted this vid here before but I really don't think anyone watched it because it doesn't fit their 3 minute attention span. Jeremy lays out the entire plan that's unfolding right now and coming to a climax, he was a statesman who investigated all of what he spoke about directly from documentation he obtained from local UN headquarters in Sydney. Originally he was quite apathetic to the idea of the new world order but after reading their documents he realised it was a matter of the utmost importance and went on a crusade of sorts giving many talks all around the world in an effort to wake people up to what was coming. So I spent many years researching the UN and it's origins and came to understand that it is in essence an institution installed by the same world Banksters who installed and funded Stalin, Hitler & Mao and their main objective was to install a totalitarian system of world corporate governance. Now they are openly flaunting it in our faces with a catchy jingle that borrows from the styles proven to evoke emotional connections from many of our favourite songs written in the last 20 years. They're rubbing our noses in it but most people don't understand the historical relevance to put it into context. I can't find it on youtube but here it is on that conspiracy theory site the MSM likes to vilify so much. A New World Order, Behind Closed Doors .... We Will Rise Again https://www.bitchute.com/video/F4ZAPNoXXoWh/ All you Marxists indoctrinated by the Frankfurt school (look that up) of thought will no doubt be offended, so feel free to attack me again but look into DAVOS - the great reset first, so you can make intelligent, educated insults. & don't make the assumption that I ascribe to two party politics, they're both pushing the same agenda and they both lie to us at every chance. It's like a Punch and Judy show where the real puppet masters hide behind the curtain and the actors on the stage just give the audience the show they're conditioned to accept to distract them from what's really going on behind the scenes.

Interesting story mate. I don't have much attention span for modern politics and can't digest videos, so I have probably missed some of your ideas. I am generally skeptical of conspiracy theories. I think your story of unions in Aus is important in a narrow window of time and in your personal life (harrowing story!), but for a political theory, your view of history is a bit too short. Horkheimer and Adorno's Dialectic of Enlightenment might give you a longer term idea of the trajectory and is integral to the Frankfurt school, but more generally indicates that we lost control through what was originally a turn toward individual liberty, and our needs were met by the proliferation of industrial mechanisms born out of the "myth of the enlightenment", to have control of all facets of life, of which both international organisations and fascism were outgrowths. As such, H & A problematise the rise of global organisations like the UN. So, I am not sure how your thoughts would be offensive to the Frankfurst school, this school seems pretty sympathetic to your views?: In light of the OHSW problems at your past work you might enjoy: "As they designate obsolete sections of the population for extermination, the administrations of totalitarian states are merely the executors of economic verdicts passed long ago. Members of other branches of the division of labor can look on with the indifference of people reading newspaper reports on clean-up operations at the scene of yesterday's catastrophe" p.171.

I wouldn't feel bad about butting heads with folias, he's a chaos agent, loves a bit a bit of discord. You're in now.

maybe it went fast to nowehere because your theism is so specific! if reality is a concept, lets see people walking though a wall PS: "physicists now believe everything in this physical universe is actually consciousness " NO THEY DONT!

Yeah this video doesn't let truth get in the way of a good story but... ...our property is 10 minutes from this patch and I know the larger area reasonably well. As usual the problem is the usual dicks that ruin it for everyone. I was there last year when the backpacker went missing for a few days. Obviously the whole story about tripping for 4 days and driving 3 hours to Perth to sell his car and back is bullshit. He did go missing in the middle of winter for several nights after not having a clue what he was doing and eating too many shrooms than he could handle. This used lots of police and other services time and money better spent elsewhere rather than on some idiot who just wanted to get off his chops. No surprise cops are pissed off. All the better known patches in the area have been completely trashed by similar dickheads. All of the patches are covered in rubbish - beer cans, bags of waste, shit and toilet paper and even abandoned tents, esky etc. This is the behaviour that really gives not just cops but also locals, shroomers and not, the shits. Talk of people sitting in the middle of town tripping balls and being ass holes in general are absolutely true, as with Balingup. Nannup is a fairly close knit community, about half mill workers bringing up families, half retirees plus a few alternative folk into things like yoga and other healing stuff. A few locals go shrooming but it's an overwhelming minority. Nannup is nothing like surrounding towns in the SW with all the tourists, crowds, shops and sea change crowd. So yeah the video is way over the top (ABC or not it's still the news) but nothing really when compared to the way people from outside treat this area and communities. Fair enough there's blatantly wrong information in it, but few people outside of researchers or niche communities such as ours here are interested in or understand psychedelics as medicine, and reporters and police aren't scientists. Doesn't mean propagating wrong information is OK but ultimately this comes down to the same old story - ass holes with no respect ruining it for everyone else. I know this opinion might not be popular with everyone but as a sometime local in Nannup, the problem isn't police or media, its overwhelmingly the result of dickheads with no concept of respect, for flora, fauna or communities.